Is Windows 10 worth the bullshit?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Moonrat, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. Moonrat

    aa Moonrat The end of an era

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    So, I've had a few chances to use Windows 10. And I don't really like it. A lot of the stuff is the same as previous OSes, but something about it feels backwards. and the issues with games and such not working right.

    Oh yes, and automatic updates, that is the big one. I don't know if there is a way to disable them on Windows 10, and I don't think I want them.

    But, looking at new PCs to get has told me one thing, Windows 10 might be unavoidable. So I'm asking you guys, do you think Windows 10 is worth the bullshit?

    Oh and before you ask, I know you could say "just upgrade your pc" but I really don't have that ability anymore. The tower is too small (sticking in my graphics card was akin to the scene from Meet the Medic where he shoves the heart into Heavy), the processor is ancient (2011), and the hard drive is tiny (300 GB doesn't cut it for modern day programs.) So I'm gonna have to get a new tower, and I might as well get a new, fancy, clean PC rather than watch this one crash and burn.
     
  2. Hotel Detective

    Hotel Detective L4: Comfortable Member

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    I love Windows 10 to death.
    It runs at least 25% better than windows 7 did, everything I dont like can be replaced, and yes you can disable windows 10 updates.
     
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  3. Yrr

    aa Yrr An Actual Deer

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    its buggy but it runs well generally

    still need to try and reinstall a bunch of shit that doesnt work tho
     
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  4. Hyperion

    aa Hyperion L16: Grid Member

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    I got W8 and W10 not day one, but week one. So far haven't got any major issues with it, not even with drivers really. Automatic updates? I don't know what's so bad about those, can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to keep your system up to date.

    Basically, I don't recognise that bullshit what you are talking about
     
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  5. UKCS-Alias

    aa UKCS-Alias Mann vs Machine... or... Mapper vs Meta?

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    I never had issues with w7 (in 3 years 1 bluescreen is a good result), never had issues with w8 (except the start menu was poor), never had issues with w10 (well, 1 bluescreen - which i could have predicted to happen). On osx i triggered 3 in a month (but that was probably triggered by doing stuff i shouldnt do - which you can do fast when trying to code for it).

    Only during vista i had problems which was mostly that old drivers didnt work, but even there crashes were rare.

    Its most of the time the drivers itself being the problem, as they happened both in w7 and w10.
     
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  6. DrLambda

    aa DrLambda L69: Teeheehee, Member

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    I was very happy with w10 until the last update, which autoenabled a bunch of bullshit you don't need that just 100% breaks some applications and games i was running. Took me like a week to get everything back up and running.
    Aside from this, it's one of the better windows.
     
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  7. MaccyF

    aa MaccyF Notoriously Unreliable

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    I think of windows 10 as a comprehensive update to windows 7 for the most part. There's a few features I don't much like, but by and large it's excellent.
     
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  8. Another Bad Pun

    Server Staff Another Bad Pun bap

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    The main noticeable differences from WIN7 are just the UI. Things like setting up your microphone are different. Emptying the recycling bin takes a right click now.
    I think it's overall an improvement, however compiling does take longer for me now, even with the same PC.
     
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  9. Empyre

    Empyre L6: Sharp Member

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    When my server rebooted without my permission, I took the time to find and disable automatic updates. Now, it will reboot when I say so.
     
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  10. sevin

    aa sevin

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    I've had W10 since whenever it started coming out. It's nice. Automatic updates are fine by me. No bugs with shit "just breaking" because I'm on W10. No bullshit to report.
     
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  11. Skittelz Pie

    Skittelz Pie L6: Sharp Member

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    I don't really know why I kept switching back and front from W10 to W7, but i've had no problems with W10 ever since I upgraded last minute. (right before July 29)
     
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  12. Pocket

    aa Pocket func_croc

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    We've upgraded two computers to Windows 10 so far, and installed fresh copies on two others, no major disasters yet except that I accidentally locked one of them out of ever using a Wacom tablet again unless I completely reinstall the OS. But that was my stupid mistake and it would probably benefit from doing that anyway.

    Besides that, there are a few UX decisions I don't care for, like splitting all the settings between the old Control Panel and the modern Settings app for no reason, and turning the perfect File Explorer toolbar into a bloated mess just because RIBBONS! RIBBONS EVERYWHERE! IT WORKED IN OFFICE SO NOW WE MUST PUT THEM EVERYWHERE except literally every other Windows feature I've seen so far. But for everything that bugs me, there's at least one thing I'd always hated that they finally got around to fixing, like file copy grinding to a halt halfway through to ask if you want to overwrite something, or the preview pane resizing itself at random when you de-maximize a window. Or the weather applet getting discontinued — five-day forecast is better than three anyway.

    I do recommend not doing a fresh install on an older computer that's no longer getting driver updates, because the old drivers might arbitrarily decide to refuse to install. Had that happen on this one, and now I can't get support for OpenGL or any older DirectX versions; apparently the generic Windows drivers don't include them anymore!
     
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  13. Empyre

    Empyre L6: Sharp Member

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    You can install older versions of DirectX and they will peacefully coexist alongside the modern DirectX. However, there are some DirectX 8 function calls used by UT 2004 (and probably some other DirectX 8 games) that Windows 10 doesn't support. I had to jump through some hoops and sacrifice some video quality to get UT 2004 working in Windows 10. That was the only game I have that had any problems with in Windows 10, including some much older games.
     
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  14. Pocket

    aa Pocket func_croc

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    I heard that you can install DirectX 9 runtimes but all it did was dump a bunch of CAB files into my temp folder or something and then quit.
     
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  15. drp

    aa drp

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    I've been using it for a while. While the stupid "settings" is really dumb, you can still access the control panel so that's a moot point.
     
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  16. Xelilian

    aa Xelilian That guy with a battleship

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    you know i would install windows 10 IF MY PC DIDNT CANCEL THE DOWNLOAD 3% OF THE WAY THROUGH DAMNIT MICROSOFT... okay my anger has been handled
     
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  17. Moonrat

    aa Moonrat The end of an era

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    Mmmm
     
  18. Xelilian

    aa Xelilian That guy with a battleship

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    oh the joy of typos...