8:05 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: I need another editor tf2 no with engine.dll, because my steam account was VAC BANNED
8:05 PM - Layl: like trying to make a cake better by layering a layer of steak on top
8:05 PM - ido: what happened was that they had designed a game that was bigger than their budget actually allowed
8:06 PM - ido: and so they had to find different ways of actually pulling through with it
8:06 PM - Layl: Lilly if your account was vac banned you have to live with that
8:06 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: Blue skin
8:06 PM - Layl: there is no other editor
8:06 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: I mean new a maps
8:06 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: Or skins
8:06 PM - umb: wat
8:06 PM - ido: i heard there was a lot of asset reuse in the 2nd act
8:06 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: Ok
8:07 PM - Layl: Lilly what do you mean
8:07 PM - ido: so i imagine the budget issues are a part of that
8:07 PM - ido: (that's also why it became an act I - act II thing)
8:07 PM - Layl: the thing is broke age had a huge budget
8:07 PM - Layl: but they blew it all on famous voice actors
8:07 PM - Layl: and famous artists
8:07 PM - ido: compared to a lot of other games, not really
8:07 PM - ido: have you seen the documentary
8:07 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: I will do newer maps
8:07 PM - Layl: I have not seen the documentary no
8:08 PM - Digaag Wa Riz entered chat.
8:08 PM - Layl: I do know they got over 3 million $
8:08 PM - umb: Lilly, what are you asking for
8:08 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: i'm back
8:08 PM - ido: which really isnt a whole lot
8:08 PM - Layl: remember that FTL got 200k $
8:08 PM - ido: for quite a small studio
8:08 PM - Layl: rimworld got 268k $
8:08 PM - ido: they were asking for $400,000 and were planning to make a small mobile game
8:09 PM - Layl: and they feature creeped to hell with the new money in all the wrong places
8:09 PM - umb: it does feel like they severely mismanaged their budget
8:09 PM - Layl: they treated their indie game like a triple A game in the budget area doing all the things triple A does wrong with budget spending
8:09 PM - umb: regardless of whether it was big enough or not
8:10 PM - umb: I would've loved to play the game with no VA if the story had been better laid out and so on
8:10 PM - ido: they actually talk about that exact thing
8:10 PM - ido: with the voice actors
8:10 PM - Layl: I bring up FTL because they've established a great method for kickstarter funding
8:10 PM - Layl: you make the game you promised FIRST
8:10 PM - Layl: then you start adding things
8:11 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo disconnected.
8:11 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo entered chat.
8:12 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: This my steam account was VAC Banned, but then It has Been deleted by valve. i have friends from valve. i'm not hacker or cheater
8:12 PM - abp is now playing Team Fortress 2 Classic. Click here to join.
8:12 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: I have new editor on maps tf2
8:12 PM - ido: my dad works for nintendo
8:12 PM - Layl: my dad is gabe newell
8:12 PM - umb: what does that mean
8:12 PM - umb: I
8:12 PM - umb: I don't know what an editor on maps tf2 is
8:12 PM - Ms. Mudpie: my dad works for team fortress
8:13 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: On singleplayer
8:13 PM - ido: my mom IS team fortress
8:13 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: Multiplayer that's risk
8:13 PM - Layl: tf2 has singleplayer?
8:13 PM - umb: singleplayer? what?
8:13 PM - ido: the great class dash
8:13 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: With bots
8:13 PM - umb: ok
8:13 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo: Training
8:14 PM - umb: but I wanna know, what do you mean when you say "I have new editor on maps tf2
"
8:14 PM - ido: my friend's texts are making about as much sense as what you're saying
8:14 PM - ooo) Lilly (ooo left chat.
8:14 PM - ido: "Get to my house soon, I need to get a new song ack of zig zags"
8:14 PM - umb: WHAT ON EARTH