CP Reckoner rc3

5cp map in a clean, industrial greenhouse facility.

  1. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    Reckoner

    Built carefully and deliberately over the course of multiple weeks.

    Meant as an addition to the diminishing 6s competitive new map pool. I will be working with a joint effort between testing through various pug groups, tf.tv, and etf2l; and testing through TF2Maps.

    Anyone interested in helping further this project through any sort of layout analysis is welcomed with open arms.

    Tear this thing apart so I can build it up twice as good as it is.

    Overlays and metal textures designed by iiboharz.
    Wet floor sign by Seba and iiboharz.
    Japan pack made by Freyja and EArkham.
    Two textures in the map made by Fubar.
    Valve shipping containter edit made by Fantasmos and Bakscratch.
    Skybox by YM.
    Oceanic props part of the Bulletcrops pack.

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  2. Auwi

    aa Auwi Certified in best in fun

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    I really enjoy this map so far, so I decided to go in for fun. Noticed a few bugs/issues so here they are.
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    Spooky hole behind the barrels here

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    Floating light??

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    Another spooky hole inside a building

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    NASTY sightline from here into blu's base

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    Another nasty sightline, but you can fix this by adding a little more cover and freeing up space on the left

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    Once again spooky hole
     
  3. Anreol

    Anreol L6: Sharp Member

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    More like rektoner

    sorry had to do it
     
  4. EArkham

    aa EArkham Necromancer

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    With mid so low and plenty of rooftops as well as a bridge for the scouts & soldiers, won't this make it very difficult to retake mid even with an uber? Plus being low means roller spam on people capping.

    I'd suggest splitting the difference in height between the very low cap and the bridge/pipe thing above it. Like, lower the bridge part so that you go down, then walk up onto the point if you're going through the valley, and have to go down stairs/ramp to reach it from the upper platform. That should mitigate roller spam a little, while giving a bit of a height advantage for cappers on those coming down the valley, but still leaving them at a disadvantage from the sides. I can do a paintover if you don't quite get what I mean.

    This does mean you'd have to change the placement of those doorways flanking the cap though.
     
  5. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    What I intended to do with the mid point was provide some sort of fight akin to the old Yukon point - soldiers/demomen pushing in would commit to the high ground and do their best to push the other team out, scouts could either take the high or low ground depending on what they wanted to do - to get chip shots on the enemy, they'd have to sacrifice capping the point early, and if they wanted to start the cap as fast as possible they'd have to give up height advantage.

    It's a bit of a tradeoff game, with the two even entrances into the mid's middle ground I think pushing in wouldn't be too much of an issue. The mid's designed to play around the point as an optional objective during the retake fight, that the team will either decide to take after the battle has finished or determine whether they have enough advantage to send a scout or two into the low ground to cap early.

    All theorycrafting, of course, but it's something.
     
  6. killohurtz

    aa killohurtz Distinction in Applied Carving

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    Yeah, this is just a different model than the typical point-on-a-hill design we see with a lot of 5cp and KotH maps. With the cap zone in a more vulnerable position, I imagine it will play similarly to Process, where teams usually ignore the objective to first try and secure the area via the flanks and high ground. This design feels like it places more emphasis on deathmatch in midfights by turning the point into a reward for the team that pushes the other back, as opposed to a primary objective that encourages both teams to butt heads over the single most advantageous position in the area.
     
  7. EArkham

    aa EArkham Necromancer

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    I look forward to trying it in any case.
     
  8. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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  9. Psy

    aa Psy The Imp Queen

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    Another Phi map? It's good, I reckon.
     
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  10. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    • lowered bridge on mid
    • removed one crate on each side on mid
    • blocked sightline across mid
    • changed around building beside mid
    • shortened the ends by a bit

    • simplified area around hut

    • simplified lower lobby entrance from second a bit: removed many pillars

    • moved the last point forward a little
    • lengthened last cap time from 2 to 3
    • added small health-ammo pair in middle ground on left side for defenders

    • changed clipping around metal railings to playerclip instead of blockbullet

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  11. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    Here's a new version of everybody's favorite new Phi map.

    Changelog includes (but is not limited to):

    Mid:
    • Shortened by about 128u on each side (widthwise) and 600u on each end (lengthwise)
    • Alt entrance from mid-lobby made smaller and changed slightly
    • Height difference between high and low ground (point) shortened by about 96u
    • Mid-lobby made smaller
    • Added slight height positions for roamers jumping in through lower-connector

    Second:
    • Changed up lower grassy entrance...

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  12. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    i have downsized everything a lot, thank you b4nny for the feedback, thanks to a lot of others for various bits and pieces

    • pushed in sides of mid, all 4 sides
    • moved rocks closer to the point on mid
    • made flat areas beside mid smaller by 128u. added cover.
    • moved around a little geometry on second due to resizing on mid.
    • resized lobby a lot.
    • resized last a lot.
    • removed secret
    • pushed sides of last in.. shortened right entrance from attacker's perspective

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  13. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    Beta 1. It's coming. Away goes the old, dreary theme of the map and in comes something bright, clean - and new.

    I've distributed prerelease versions to a handful of people. Officially, Beta 1 should come out very shortly.

    Now for the exciting bit: B4nny will be streaming, LIVE, his reactions to the prerelease build. No telling when exactly - but it's tonight, and it'll be during his stream. Come visit when he goes live: https://www.twitch.tv/b4nny
     
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  14. Moonrat

    aa Moonrat The end of an era

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    Holy fuck those are some cool ass visuals. I hope the maps as fun as the last time I played it.

    My only problem is that some areas seem rather bare, but I'd imagine you're gonna add some more to them.
     
  15. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    Here's beta 1. Say what you will.

    Changelog:
    • Detailed the map.
    • Various geometry changes across the entire map due to detailing
    • Opened up little shutter door into second (the top entrance) from 96x128u to 136x160u (a 42% increase in width, a 25% increase in hight)
    • Widened the playspace of the platform immediately outside little shutter door.
    • Added detail railings on either side of small slope in lobby (does not affect play)
    • Filled in holes on small ramps up to mid.
    • Changed glass texture on barriers at last to a more noticeable green texture.
    • Moved pillars on left (relative to defenders) side of last in to give more space for spam into sentry nests
    • Slightly moved around various geometry to allow for easier spam angles on sentry nests over the whole of last
    • Removed barrel prop on far right (rel. to def.) side of last
    • Nobuilded the top of every prop in last.
    • Added health-ammo pair on lowground in lobby – added detail railings nearby

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  16. Moonrat

    aa Moonrat The end of an era

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    Oh man this is hot
     
  17. JeanPaul

    JeanPaul L4: Comfortable Member

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    cp_reckoner_season? :D
     
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  18. MaccyF

    aa MaccyF Notoriously Unreliable

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    although i love the architectural and paint style, i can't help thinking that there are too many neutral colours. It just seems very tonally (hue-illy? not sure there's a word for that) noisy.

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    this screenshot is a case in point. In this one screen there are large chunks of yellow, green, red and to a smaller extent blue (in the shadows and windows mainly). At first glance it's actually pretty hard to tell which side of the map you're on, and which way you should be going. Despite this being red's second point, the majority of the colour accenting isnt red.

    Edit: Forgot to say, i think blu side's colours mesh a lot better, my gripes mainly with red
     
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  19. Ynders

    aa Ynders absolutely gormful

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    Maybe change the green accents to yellow on red's side?
     
  20. phi

    aa phi Banished From Time

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    Possibly - although it'd leave a lot of strange balance between the bamboo and the absence of green. Might just try to replace all yellow with team colors and/or green.
     
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