TF2Maps.net 72hr Contest #4 - Prelim questions!

Discussion in 'Contests' started by Fr0Z3nR, Apr 10, 2013.

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When is the best time for the 72hr Contest?

  1. Mid to Late May

    6 vote(s)
    15.0%
  2. Early to Mid June

    16 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. Mid to Late June

    18 vote(s)
    45.0%
  4. Early to Mid July

    14 vote(s)
    35.0%
  5. Mid to Late July

    11 vote(s)
    27.5%
  6. Early to Mid August

    7 vote(s)
    17.5%
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  1. Fr0Z3nR

    aa Fr0Z3nR Creator of blackholes & memes. Destroyer of forums

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    TF2Maps.net 72hr Mapping Contest #4

    It's been a long time, how have you been?

    I'm back to host yet another 72hr contest (HOLY COW!). But I need to ask you all a few questions first...

    1. Using the above poll, people tell me which time region over the next few months is best for you. (you may pick more than one)
    2. Are the rules from last year sufficient?
    3. Is there anything new you might want to add to this years contest (a specific theme, for example)
    4. Want a fanta, don'tchu you want a fanta?

    Also post anything else here that you feel you want to add or discuss.
    I will need some donations (once again) for games, I still have 3 from last year, but need some more.

    Thanks guys!

    Previous rules:
     
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  2. Faux Rhinoceros

    aa Faux Rhinoceros Also known as Dr. Element

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    Would totally go for mid-june. My exams end early that month.
     
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  3. Micnax

    aa Micnax I maek map

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    Yeah mid-June sounds ideal for me, it's after I finish University and before I go to the US on holiday.

    Also can we ban KOTH this time kkthx
     
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  4. Trotim

    aa Trotim

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    If there's any restriction it should be this one
     
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  5. phi

    aa phi Within The Vacuum Of Infinity...

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    Yeah, if we didn't restrict/disallow KOTH maps they would literally end up being like 95% of the entries again. I'd like to see people do 72hr CP maps rather than KOTH for sure.
     
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  6. GPuzzle

    GPuzzle L9: Fashionable Member

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    Yeah, guess we are probably going to do this in June or July.

    Also, if this is going to be a 72hr contest without KOTH, then it's going to be an actual challenge to basically anyone.

    GODDAMNIT KOTH, WHY THE HECK DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO TACTICAL (ABLE TO BE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T DEGRESS TO TDM) AND FAST TO MAKE AT THE SAME TIME?
     
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  7. Bloodhound

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    Well, you gotta say, that there was a reason, why last years entries was like 95% KOTH.
    STAR's contest was running at the same time, and most people wanted to scrap their KOTH map for it.
     
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  8. Tarry H Sruman

    Tarry H Sruman Large Orphanage Proprietor

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    tc only
     
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  9. Idolon

    aa Idolon the worst admin

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    Anything but June, I'll be out of the country that entire month and won't be able to participate.
     
  10. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    Exactly midjune
     
  11. LeSwordfish

    aa LeSwordfish semi-trained quasi-professional

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    Also whichever gamemode idolon wants to do we should ban that.
     
  12. Sergis

    aa Sergis L666: ])oo]v[

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    good, one win is enough for you
     
  13. Fr0Z3nR

    aa Fr0Z3nR Creator of blackholes & memes. Destroyer of forums

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    Alright, so people hate KotH, then open question:

    Besides the "we're sick of playing KotH maps and there are a ton of them" reasons as to why you hate KotH, could people provide me some other constructive (not to start a flame war) reasons as to why KotH shouldn't be included?

    I'll hold my opinions on this til later, I've been away for a while so I want to know what you guys are thinking.
     
  14. LeSwordfish

    aa LeSwordfish semi-trained quasi-professional

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    Simple answer: It's much easier than other modes. Why would anyone make anything else when they could get a KOTH map done in that time? I'd suggest banning Arena as well, but i'm fairly ambivalent on the subject of bans.
     
  15. theharribokid

    aa theharribokid

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    I think keeping koth is a good idea, it allows people of all skills to participate, how about not allowing someone who has made a koth map in a 72hr contest before to do so again?

    Tbh I think people should be able to make whatever they want and if people are going to actually fall back into koth then they are only screwing themselves over and wasting a opportunity.
     
  16. Micnax

    aa Micnax I maek map

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    This is pretty reasonable. I felt like I was going to auto-lose last time because I entered a CTF map surrounded by KOTH maps (which is quite comparable in popularity and I'm surprised I even got past the first voting stage).

    Restricting KOTH will make people actually want to explore the other gamemodes TF2 has, like Payload, CTF and normal capture point maps.
     
  17. fubarFX

    aa fubarFX The "raw" in "nodraw"

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    I feel that banning koth would force the creativity we want to see in a contest of this nature. a lot of gamemodes can be easily made in that time frame. plr comes to mind, same applies for ctf, sd, cp, hell even pl. its fine if you guys want to make koth, but you have to be serious about it.
     
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  18. Tarry H Sruman

    Tarry H Sruman Large Orphanage Proprietor

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    Give a point bonus to superior ad, pl, tc, etc. or maps that have some unique gametype.

    Give a point penalty to lowly vanilla koth maps.

    Only winner maps by winners will win
     
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  19. Fr0Z3nR

    aa Fr0Z3nR Creator of blackholes & memes. Destroyer of forums

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    I'll still listen to feedback and chat about what I think should happen still, but I'd like to point that koth_arctic came out of the 72hr contest last year, didn't do /that/ well, but still took 1st in the STAR_ contest.


    If we were to limit to say, 5 (arbitrary number), gamemodes... what would you guys like to see?
     
  20. Bloodhound

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    I don't thing that a game mode restriction is the best solution.

    Since everyone apparently hates KotH maps here, there won't be much entries.
    (Does that make sense?)

    And if there is a KotH map, and if it's good and creative, who cares about it being a KotH map?
    And if it's bad, then it's just another bad map, that wouldn't get much testing.

    If everyone who hates KotH is creating a non-KotH map, then we already should have enough diversity to survive the playtests.
     
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