WiP in WiP, post your screenshots!

[Sergis]

(it looked cooler in motion)

 

[Another Bad Pun]

A little messy, but I'm really excited because I'm actually doing something!

 

[re1wind]

That's a lot of deathpit.

 

[SSX]

After several hours of thinking of new ideas for a B point, I got this:

 

[Empyre]

That's a lot of deathpit.

If Another Bad Pun would provide a way out (or more than one), it could change from a death pit to an inconvenient pit. Maybe make it water.

 

[Doktor Richter]

If that's Heatwave, then it looks like a huge improvement over the last version, especially from the perspective of a scout main. It's nice to see those open spaces and side routes around the point, as opposed to the cramped, chokey entrances that were always under a lot of fire and tough to flank.

Looking forward to playing it, for sure.

 

[takabuschik]

I made a custom skybox! (It's just a modified goldrush one, but still it's something)

and also some wip (using the skybox)

 

[Woozlez]

env_lightglow

 

[Thorval]

New map,

 

[YM]

That's a lot of death pit.

 

[Thorval]

Less death pit,

 

[seth]

you just cant wait to start detailing can you thorval.

 

[wareya]

Honestly, art tends to be better when maps are done art-first. The problem is that it makes the gameplay parts much harder.

 

[seth]

oh i know it is. all the maps ive "started" were me making small fully detailed areas because i hate/literally cant layout a map. but if you fully detail a map as you make it

a) it will take forever and you will be sad because cranking out a map fully detailed doesn't allow you to play test
b) any layout changes you have to make after playtesting, especially big areas, will fucking suck to try to do and
c) it's not good practice. detailing as you layout is just a recipe for failure and discouragement.

if you can crank out a fully detailed map that generally plays well and people like, youre a god among mappers.

 

[xzzy]

There's no "right" way to make a map, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a couple fully detailed buildings while the rest of the map is dev texture placeholders.

If you're careful about the big scale structures being on a grid it's not hard to adjust detailed buildings.. just go into vertex mode and drag stuff around a little bit.

 

[Idolon]

People underestimate the power of the vertex tool so much. Build your brushwork smartly and learn how to use it, and you can pretty much move mountains without worrying about space management (to a degree).

Unrelated, doing some more Unity work:

 

[seth]

I agree xzzy, but that's not the scenario we were discussing. I was talking about fully detailing a map as you make it, not just specific areas/buildings that won't see much layout change.

 

[Fruity Snacks]

In less than 24 hours, I was able to mock up a very simple puzzle game (and this really REALLY easy level) in Unreal Engine 4.

 

[RaVaGe]

Honestly, art tends to be better when maps are done art-first. The problem is that it makes the gameplay parts much harder.

Nope, you have to learn how to turn dev blocks to real details then.

 

[UKCS-Alias]

Nope, you have to learn how to turn dev blocks to real details then.

You also would have to make your dev blocks shaped in a way that you can create the details you want. Without anything that lays focus on it your map is going to be quite dull detail wise. Still, as mapper you usualy already have such idea of an area and make your brushwork to match it.

The major downside of doing detail first is that as mapper you are scared to change the part that plays bad just because it looks good. And this makes bad maps.

Details are recommended as the last part just because gameplay is more important.