The Overwatch community is the worst I've ever seen in a video game.
I guess you've never played like
any other video game then??
My experience over TF2's lifetime has been waaaaaaay worse.
Maybe in 1/3 of OW matches one person says like 3-4 salty words, but in TF2's lifetime I've seen waaaaay more insults and horrible behaviour across many servers frequently. TF2 has problems with micspammers, russian kids saying NO KEEL, everyone calling everyone else a fag or a nigger.
It's gross and I hate it
The worst Overwatch gets is normally just GG EZ or "fuckin noob team" but the pacing is so different that in TF2 it persists, there's incessant votekicks, anyone mouthing off in chat just keeps at it and then other people join in. In Overwatch they say like 1-2 lines and then either quit or shut up. There's just no comparison between the way shit turns sour in TF2 than in Overwatch.
Not to mention normally it seems like everyone says gg and wp at the end, there's the card ratings and POTG where everyone laughs about how bad the play was or says how good that final push was. It's nice, can't imagine that in TF2
The community outside of overwatch is waaaaay better than what I've seen from TF2. The TF2 community seems divided into those that create things that are fucking dumb and awful (either intentionally because lulz memes or unintentionally because they're young and just not really practiced at making things yet) and the decent young artists making good art (oh and SFM'ers who occupy the mid-to-good range mostly) and the overwatch community is like nothing but profesh artists and cartoonists creating amazing art. There is, of course, the full range of shit to god tier stuff happening on both sides but what I see is TF2 is waaaaaaaaay skewed to the shit tier and Overwatch is waaaaaaaay skewed to the god tier.
Plus there's stuff like this happening in OW's community:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/..._you_for_making_ana_a_true_egyptian_blizzard/
Which isn't the kind of stuff that ever happens in TF2's community.
As for
@Crash's linked video, I kinda agree with the do with vs meet friends, but not really very strongly. I more or less only play Overwatch with friends, yes, but they have friends, and I have friends, and we join and mingle. I've met and hung out with well over a dozen totally new people so far. It was
months before I'd 'met' anyone by playing TF2 but with Overwatch sometimes I meet four people all at once, then hang out for
hours. Friendships in TF2 start with a trickle, but in Overwatch it's a bit more like a fire hose.
To further bolster the eehhh feeling of this comparison is that it's another launch+9 years vs launch+0 years comparison. Like sure, what TF2 has become is totally different from overwatch is now. but if you compare early days TF2 to early days overwatch, they're a TON more similar. and while I appreciate there's value in comparing the two games as they both are
right now the fact that overwatch will continue to grow and change over its lifetime seems oft glossed over entirely. It's already had arguably more changes in the first two months than TF2 had in its first year. His entire argument about player expression seems to forget that in TF2 didn't even start until mid 2009 TWO YEARS after the game was released. TWO YEARS. It's just laughable to say Overwatch isn't interested in expression and TF2 is when TF2 had no interest in expression for two years and Overwatch already has cosmetics from day 1