Bermuda Cake
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The cracks on the ground don't look very good, they're too straight imo - you'd be better of with an overlay probably
CP wetstone
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those cracks in the ground are made from temporary func_details, smarty pants. 
and out of all the images i posted, you just *had* to pick out something that hasn't changed from a1b...
I also have no idea how an overlay would help in this situation, but maybe you know something i don't.
and out of all the images i posted, you just *had* to pick out something that hasn't changed from a1b...
I also have no idea how an overlay would help in this situation, but maybe you know something i don't.
A3 up
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12171801/cp_wetstone_a3.rar
-changes-
too many to list, entire mid section redone. completely. unrecognisable from a2.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12171801/cp_wetstone_a3.rar
-changes-
too many to list, entire mid section redone. completely. unrecognisable from a2.
TheKieranator
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I'm not so sure about the wavy sand texture, particularly on the rocky pillars/outcrops. Why did you change?
floating cactus is floating
Silverus
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Looking really sweet!
The only problem is that the first point seems like it should be the second point if you look at the detailing, due to the wood textures being at B and concrete textures being at A. It makes it feel more natural in a sense for level progression. You'd expect to have more solid textures (such as concrete) as you penetrate deeper into enemy territory, instead of wood. It would immerse the player more into your level, just adding that extra.... Wow factor to make the final point seem more epic, instead of an older building of lesser importance than the big concrete building that contains the A point. You know what I mean?
The only problem is that the first point seems like it should be the second point if you look at the detailing, due to the wood textures being at B and concrete textures being at A. It makes it feel more natural in a sense for level progression. You'd expect to have more solid textures (such as concrete) as you penetrate deeper into enemy territory, instead of wood. It would immerse the player more into your level, just adding that extra.... Wow factor to make the final point seem more epic, instead of an older building of lesser importance than the big concrete building that contains the A point. You know what I mean?
bob+M|M+
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played this gameplay and it was quite fun overall. I didn't like the paths to/from A/B though. They were very unintuitive and I feel could be reworked. Especially coming from red side. Usually when you look at the outside of a building, you can imagine where the main door/entrance is, but I didn't feel that AT ALL from your curret setup. Also it felt odd why you have to go up and down stairs to get to the other side, instead of a main lower ground path.
visually I think it all comes together well. maybe a little less wood, like the A/B signs which don't seem to match with the concrete imo. otherwise lookin good!
visually I think it all comes together well. maybe a little less wood, like the A/B signs which don't seem to match with the concrete imo. otherwise lookin good!
Players can get onto the roof that overlooks RED spawn, opposite B. This was particularly problematic when snipers got up there and would snipe people as they went to use a teleporter. Though any situation where players can snipe at the spawn exit is bad. There's almost no LoS to the roof from the rest of the map as it's protected by rocks from the CP and there is very little other high ground, so it's very hard to spot anyone on the roof or accessing the roof.
The A/B divide was quite wide, in that it was very difficult for BLU to hold any map control over A. This could be improved by having a ledge on the far path so only rocket/sticky jumpers could flank that path. You should also remove the room with the crates and barrel stacks. having a nook or cranny for spies or surprise SG can be interesting but it didn't feel necassery and was largely detrimental to the balance/flow of combat towards B.
The main path up to A is just a shooting gallery for RED and there's no real area around the point for RED to set up. the entire area seems really unintuitive. Make the rooms on the left flank smaller and you'll be able to create some chokes and viable sentry spots. At the moment it's just BLU rocket and sticky jumping onto the point to avoid the predictable sniper and wrangler SG play.
The A/B divide was quite wide, in that it was very difficult for BLU to hold any map control over A. This could be improved by having a ledge on the far path so only rocket/sticky jumpers could flank that path. You should also remove the room with the crates and barrel stacks. having a nook or cranny for spies or surprise SG can be interesting but it didn't feel necassery and was largely detrimental to the balance/flow of combat towards B.
The main path up to A is just a shooting gallery for RED and there's no real area around the point for RED to set up. the entire area seems really unintuitive. Make the rooms on the left flank smaller and you'll be able to create some chokes and viable sentry spots. At the moment it's just BLU rocket and sticky jumping onto the point to avoid the predictable sniper and wrangler SG play.
Good feedback you two, and i'm aware of the problems. part of me just wants to dump the map into the garbage and forget about it while walking away as a slightly better mapper.
sadly, that won't be happening and I've started to restructure all the buildings to, not only be more visually interesting, but have a better flow. i hope.
sadly, that won't be happening and I've started to restructure all the buildings to, not only be more visually interesting, but have a better flow. i hope.
Well there's no reason you can't reconstruct the map from scratch. The only places with moderate detail are places you have to rework anyway. I don't know about you but i find it faster whacking out a fresh layout than reworking something i've already produced.
Plus it's better to decide such a thing sooner rather than later otherwise you just waste more time.
At least that way you're kinda doing both leaving the map a better mapper and still working on the project. Plus there's nothing stopping you improving on your layout.
Plus it's better to decide such a thing sooner rather than later otherwise you just waste more time.
At least that way you're kinda doing both leaving the map a better mapper and still working on the project. Plus there's nothing stopping you improving on your layout.
You might want ot look at gorge, see howthey detail large concrete buildings.