TF2Maps.net Major Contest #9 - Mann vs. Machine

Discussion in 'Contests' started by Seba, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. Idolon

    aa Idolon the worst admin

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  2. Seba

    aa Seba DR. BIG FUCKER, PHD

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    For those of you who are working on a contest entry, whether you're ready or not: in what state will your map be by the deadline?
     
  3. Faux Rhinoceros

    aa Faux Rhinoceros Also known as Dr. Element

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    Turbo and I expects to have a decently detailed beta ready by the deadline.

    EDIT: Includes a pretty much finished mission.
     
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  4. EArkham

    aa EArkham Necromancer

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    Detailed beta (the easy part, considering that MvM is underdetailed to begin with), with mostly untested robots/waves. Maybe a test in the next six days, depends on if I'm lucky enough to spot a game day thread in time.
     
  5. phi

    aa phi In Dark Places

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    Turbo and I will most likely finish RC1 by the deadline. The pop file will be nearly refined by then (if we can get enough tests!)
     
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  6. Seba

    aa Seba DR. BIG FUCKER, PHD

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    Testing has been happening more and more often lately, EArkham and PDT. I suggest dropping into chat during a stale period (aka not around gamedays or other impromptus) and suggesting an MvM test.
     
  7. LeSwordfish

    aa LeSwordfish semi-trained quasi-professional

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    Ah, oops?
     
  8. Vaconcovat

    Vaconcovat L3: Member

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    I hope to be in late beta, i wanted to get to more of a release stage but i lost a week or two because of reasons
     
  9. Freyja

    aa Freyja Help I'm trapped in this post

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    I honestly don't know, as I continue to have the most obscure issues with ventus :(
     
  10. goosmurf

    goosmurf L1: Registered

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    Not sure where I should be posting this but I've setup a server in Sydney, Australia, running the 7 contest entries in rotation.

    smurfy MvM #3 - TF2Maps Contest Maps 103.4.17.198:27045
     
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  11. Seba

    aa Seba DR. BIG FUCKER, PHD

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    Doc was kind enough to set up the Cafe MvM server for us to use:

    cafeofbrokendreams.com:27666 pw:dogmeat

    Thank him when you get the chance!
     
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  12. Pocket

    aa Pocket When all you have is Hammer...

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    What happened to the server listings on the contest page? Is it just going to be just the Café from now on?

    EDIT: Oh, and speaking of which:

    FYI your site is down.

    SECOND EDIT: Does the Café server have any mods in place to accommodate potential issues with a map, like being able to vote to skip to the next wave and automatically award ourselves the money if we decide there's no way we can beat it? Because if a map happens to have a too-hard wave early on, I'd hate for the rest to be effectively disqualified because no one could even see them. I've already encountered one map with that problem, and I suspect this is part of why there's been almost no testing for this contest.
     
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  13. Lancey

    aa Lancey Currently On: ?????

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    Negatory.

    If a wave is too hard, it's an issue of balance, and if it's so impossible as to prevent advancement, then the wave should be rectified before further testing is done. Balance is not achieved through a single test, but through multiple iterations. If you skip the wave or give yourself money to advance, the rest of the testing is moot because you no longer have the upgrades you were intended to have at that point. It's not as if the map itself changes between waves, so the testing can be concluded after several runs of the same wave.
     
  14. Sel

    Sel Banned

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    Except the problem is generally when a wave breaks (read bots getting stuck outside the map), not so much a wave being too hard.
     
  15. Pocket

    aa Pocket When all you have is Hammer...

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    Exactly. Plus, the maps are locked down to their current state, so they can't make any more fixes at this point. One bad wave being an automatic failure just because that wave happens to be one of the early ones, even if they've had time to tweak the balance (which they sort of haven't, since there's been so little testing before the submission deadline), doesn't seem fair.
     
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  16. fubarFX

    aa fubarFX The "raw" in "nodraw"

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    and from what I heard you can pretty much edit pop files on the fly which can be quite useful
     
  17. Seba

    aa Seba DR. BIG FUCKER, PHD

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  18. Bloodhound

    Bloodhound L6: Sharp Member

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    I did some tracking for the voting page, and I'm very happy to announce, that
    the map pack has been downloaded 457 times.

    All in all, the page had 7781 visits by a average visit duration of 2 min and 51s.

    Clicks on the map images
    Map Clicks
    Atomgrad 1445
    Ventus 1180
    Isolation 856
    Destruct 792
    Sludge 727
    Maelstorm 649
    Plateau 579
     
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  19. Freyja

    aa Freyja Help I'm trapped in this post

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    Hooray ventus being pretty amounted to something :D
     
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  20. Faux Rhinoceros

    aa Faux Rhinoceros Also known as Dr. Element

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    Do we have to do something to activate the VIP period?

    Also, can we decide what point the VIP period should start? c: