Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2 Talk' started by tf2.com, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Hyperion

    aa Hyperion L16: Grid Member

    Messages:
    811
    Positive Ratings:
    621
    Now you actually are because forced viewmodel_fov 54 fills half of the screen
     
  2. Mikroscopic

    aa Mikroscopic

    Messages:
    635
    Positive Ratings:
    674
    I just realized while trying to join passtime_brickyard for the achievement, there's no way to choose what map you play on now. I spent over half an hour waiting to get into a game, and when I realized it wasn't the right map I went to disconnect and realized that the game would disown me if I did that. So I spent all that time to be forced to play a match I didn't even want to play.

    12/10
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  3. Diva Dan

    aa Diva Dan hello!

    Messages:
    872
    Positive Ratings:
    1,517
    That's casual for you. Use the server browser for now
     
  4. Vel0city

    aa Vel0city func_fish

    Messages:
    1,939
    Positive Ratings:
    1,550
    ...and spend the same time searching for a server that runs your map without any additional dumbness, like instant respawn or RTD or worse, 18 bots, ads or "premium" stuff.

    For fun, I let the server browser sit for a minute while it searched for every available server out there under 100 ping. Then I typed in pl_b (for pl_badwater). Out of the 1500 servers it found, I got 9 servers. 2 of them on Borneo (with the dumb stuff enabled), 4 of them running some other pl map with b in it (some goofy map, not a normal map) and the final 3 were Badwater maps. 1 empty, one an instant respawn ad-infestation from Saigns and 1 Skial 32-player server.

    At this point the server browser is just as useless as the new "Quickplay", except not because it's buggy as fuck, or because it's implementation is crap, but because the servers inside are shite.
     
  5. YM

    aa YM LVL100 YM

    Messages:
    7,099
    Positive Ratings:
    5,922
    Here's a detailed breakdown of why I recommended you take a while to collect yourself

    You seem so angry you're completely misrepresenting what I asked:
    I did not say that you should change your views or that you're wrong. I didn't say that you can't be critical. You wrote a whole wall of text rebuking something that I never said.

    The points you're making are all valid, yet the hyperbole and heated phrasing makes you seem like you're raging more than Bruce Banner on a bad day:
    Many TF2 related things suck but TF2 isn't worth the increased blood pressure you're probably suffering from this much negativity and anger
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Respectfully Disagree Respectfully Disagree x 1
  6. sevin

    aa sevin

    Messages:
    959
    Positive Ratings:
    687
    Seems like B4nny had too much influence on Valve... they're trying to make this game super serious for everyone. TF2 doesn't work like that. If Valve is smart, which they are, they'll give us real quickplay back. They added 2 competitive modes in this update, we only need one.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  7. Diva Dan

    aa Diva Dan hello!

    Messages:
    872
    Positive Ratings:
    1,517
    I agree sevin, after seeing both of his videos he generally has this opinion of casual "streamlining" the tf2 experience. The thing is, not everybody plays tf2 like this and enjoy popping in and out of pubs to do some market gardening or demo knighting. Casual is too serious for my taste, considering we have a competitive mode now.
     
  8. dryerlint

    dryerlint L5: Dapper Member

    Messages:
    205
    Positive Ratings:
    184
    Honestly, are there any significant differences at all between comp and the new "casual" mode?
     
  9. Umaroth-24

    Umaroth-24 L2: Junior Member

    Messages:
    63
    Positive Ratings:
    33
    welp its 12v12
     
  10. Dr. Spud

    aa Dr. Spud Grossly Incandescent

    Messages:
    879
    Positive Ratings:
    830
    Now if I want to play TF2 I either wait a long time for a stressful try-hard match, or play on one of the awful community servers that still exists. As of this update, I can't play TF2 in any capacity I'm interested in.

    I don't think I'm exaggerating... killing quickplay like that is nuts. Strange feeling: I don't feel angry and therefore don't want to play. I feel like I want to play and can't.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  11. RataDeOrdenador

    RataDeOrdenador L5: Dapper Member

    Messages:
    235
    Positive Ratings:
    102
    Like someone said earlier,they should bring back all the Valve servers so you can play some quick-fast-full-of-f2p matches. Then keep this Casual mode for a semi-serious match. And then the competitive for the (obvious) serious matches.

    I think that way everyone wins? Maybe?

    Oh,and bring the "Create A Server" button back... I have to test/look at maps using the console. That's not fun either. :V
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. sevin

    aa sevin

    Messages:
    959
    Positive Ratings:
    687
    I feel bad for Scorpio, Phi, and Schwa. Great maps that won't get their fair shake (at least for the time being) by the community at large because of the shitty way in which we have to play them. Or not play them.
    That button is useless, it's easier to invoke maps with the console. Plus, they didn't remove it. It's in with "find a game".
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. Vel0city

    aa Vel0city func_fish

    Messages:
    1,939
    Positive Ratings:
    1,550
    Hey @The Jill

    I'd like to know your defenition of "neato". We (read: pretty much the majority of the TF2 community) are clearly not on the same page here.

    Moderator Edit: User has been warned for this post.
     
    • Respectfully Disagree Respectfully Disagree x 4
    • Agree Agree x 1
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 9, 2016
  14. Dr. Spud

    aa Dr. Spud Grossly Incandescent

    Messages:
    879
    Positive Ratings:
    830
    Yeah I'm confused, looking in the main menu, is there no way to only play the update maps? I have to jump into normal matchmaking and get lucky?

    Sidenote: I don't see the create server button there.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  15. RataDeOrdenador

    RataDeOrdenador L5: Dapper Member

    Messages:
    235
    Positive Ratings:
    102
    Yep. That's basically it.

    And also,before I go to bed,I'll just copy-paste this image from the TF2 Reddit:

    [​IMG]
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Respectfully Disagree Respectfully Disagree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  16. nightwatch

    aa nightwatch

    Messages:
    640
    Positive Ratings:
    486
    I'm confident that the long wait times to enter a game are going to be fixed soon, alleviating at least half the angst. All the various changes are hard to evaluate when the game's unplayable. It would be nice if every update didn't have this problem, but I understand why it does and it usually clears up in a day or two.
     
  17. sevin

    aa sevin

    Messages:
    959
    Positive Ratings:
    687
    Correct. It was my understanding they didn't remove it, but maybe they did. I preserved it in my HUD, along with the rest of the old buttons.
     
  18. dryerlint

    dryerlint L5: Dapper Member

    Messages:
    205
    Positive Ratings:
    184
    Honestly, there are only two big issues with this update: the broken GC and the abandonment penalties. Fix those two things and Casual Mode will be fine.

    Add the ability to accurately choose a gamemode/map, and Casual will be even better than before.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. Gabe Noodle from Volvo

    Gabe Noodle from Volvo L3: Member

    Messages:
    142
    Positive Ratings:
    32
    Nope
     
  20. sevin

    aa sevin

    Messages:
    959
    Positive Ratings:
    687
    We also need to be able to join a game in-progress. Whenever we want. Leave without penalty. Pick a map we like at a location nearby. All the things quickplay already did.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3