CP Mojave rc

[tyler]

The underground part is incredible

 

[tyler]

Can I just get these on this page too, thanks

 

[Seba]

I don't like these wooden clamp things; I don't know about the TF2 engineers, but I would not hold big wooden pillars together with wood. Use metal.

I also don't like the RED spawn, it's just BAMREDEVERYWHERE and has towels alongside servers, looks silly.

But other than that, holy shit.

 

[Pocket]

Yeah, the RED spawn stood out as really weird, but everything else, including what looks like a new skybox? *WHEEEEEEEW* I barely recognized the second stage from some of those shots.

And the "now two stages thing"... I assume you had three before, though I don't remember what it was like. Are you cutting it out altogether, or just pulling a Zig and removing it for now since you don't have time to finish detailing it?

 

[owly-oop]

I really don't like your lighting, the extreme red lighting doesn't look good on red surfaces (cliffs, wood and brick walls)

 

[Psy]

Hanz, sir, you have truly outdone yourself this time around.

 

[Hanz]

Yeah for B2 (after the contest) I will maaaaybe make the lighting a little less red, although I like the feeling it gives to the map. Will also have a look at the red spawn.
I don't know wether I will put stage 3 back in or not, 2-2 actually feels like an ending to a map so it actually seems right now.

But anyway thanks for the mostly positive reactions you guys have given so far, I'm really happy right now.

 

[grazr]

I don't like those big wooden beams with the unnecassery gap between them. Reference cp_granary CP2 support beams and build ones similar to those (they also have the metal clips around them).

I don't quite understand the aesthetics of last either, it's not very epic or open for a last CP.

P.S. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oPX4T4Dac&NR=1

 

[DaBeatzProject]

yay i'm that pyro, i remember that

 

[Tyker]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10000.jpg
This, and the other vent extrusions should be clipped off.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10001.jpg
I really like this broken wood!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10002.jpg
This might be too easy for a sniper to spawncamp.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10003.jpg
I think this would look better, right now it's too flat.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10005.jpg
The lighting on the wood in the back is a bit too dark. I don't know if you can do anything about that though.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10006.jpg
Right now the cliff fits the wall a bit too perfectly. Maybe add a bit of distance? Or remove the cliff underneath there and add supports so it fits to the ground below?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10007.jpg
This colour/shadow difference is a bit too much. Add something in the 3d skybox so the shadow is there too.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10008.jpg
This looks a bit unnatural. Why the little step up into a wall, and then you need to turn around for the door?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/cp_mojave_b10009.jpg
This looks too empty. You could add buildings or some hills/rocks to get more of a layered and far feeling.

Apart from that I agree with the "Too red' and 'Give the last CP better glass' criticisms. The map does play well and looks nice though!

 

[StickZer0]

Hanz, this map is excellently made and detailed, I'm very impressed with what you've done since I saw the alpha, I genuinely was not expecting such a well done map!

Definitely one of my top 3 favourite maps so far ))

 

[Hanz]

So this looks kind of dead but I'm going to release a B2 after the contest with fixes at CP2-2 (the glass), the 3D skybox, the respawnroomvisualizers at the BLU setup in stage 2, ...

However I don't think I'm going to detail the 3rd stage though, it always felt a bit weird and CP2-2 is harder than both CP's in stage 3. So I will probably just let this be a 2 staged map. :O

 

[tyler]

nooooooooo

 

[Tyker]

If it's okay, I still have some feedback:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/ceilinglight.jpg
On one had this looks kinda cool. On the other, it looks weird to have such a giant light on it. It looks unnatural/unrealistic/weird.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/ladder.jpg
This ladder should be slanted.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/skybox.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1641307/Maps/Feedback/mojave/skybox (2).jpg
And the skybox looks too empty/too much of one colour.

 

[littleedge]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_mojave_b10000.jpg

 

[osiem]

Okay Hanz, here's what I think of point 1-2:

 

[Hanz]

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Oh I just see this post now, but I might actually use that idea. I think it could solve the problems around that CP!
Thanks

 

[Hanz]

Yay contest ended expect B2 soon.

/me is a happy man now

 

[littleedge]

Congrats Hanz.

 

[Hanz]

So I'm slowly working on B2 but I don't really know wether I should change the CP's heavily or not. There are indeed some balance issues but I don't think these are big enough to rework a whole CP? I'd love to hear your opinion on this!

Aside from that I'm mostly just fixing (detailing) bugs and I might try some less red lighting too. :O