CP Edifice RC1

[Sergis]

last i checked it was regarded as overdetailed around here

 

[JeanPaul]

Am I the only one that finds Mountain Lab insanely well detailed and actually has a great atmosphere and the keeps the feel of "I'm breaking through a secret base" that really few maps have?

Nope I think its great and youd be surprised to find the map is actually played a fair amount. Actually I am about to go play in a 24/7 mountainlab server for 4 hours straight

 

[Limeaide]

I'd lose the laser on C if I was you. It'd make the map feel a little more distinct from gravelpit.

 

[phi]

I'd lose the laser on C if I was you. It'd make the map feel a little more distinct from gravelpit.

Way ahead of you. Already got a redesign set for C and have pretty much bulldozed a good portion of some of the side buildings. Probably going to keep the stupid amount of missiles because I can, though

 

[JeanPaul]

If I were you I would totally go for a bigrock look for C

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/6/6b/Mvm_bigrock.png

Where your spire is the tallest thing for miles and the sky just seamlessly blends in with the ground wayy in the distance.

 

[Pocket]

...Mountain Lab... keeps the feel of "I'm breaking through a secret base" that really few maps have

Mountain Lab's C building has too conspicuous of a façade to reasonably qualify as a secret anything. And it stands out from its environment too much to be masquerading as something else (like the bases in most official maps) either.

 

[phi]

b2 released
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/84556731/cp_edifice/cp_edifice_b2.bsp.bz2

changelog coming soon

hopefully everything works alright b/c I rushed this out the door
detailing around C isn't near completion at all, don't think it is please

 

[nightwatch]

C looks a lot less busy, I like it.

 

[Pocket]

Nodraw brush accidentally overlapping stuff I guess.

 

[phi]

Hot off the press, and quickly made at that...
Edifice B3 (Test 1, there are two test versions, second coming later...)

DOWNLOAD- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/84556731/cp_edifice/cp_edifice_b3_test1.bsp.bz2

Changelog (so far, this isn't final B3!!)
- Prop detailing in many places
- Streamlined detailing in general
- Flattened roof at B
- Added clip ramp to window at B
- Eliminated many holes that rockets or sightlines could head through
- Trimmed down on sightlines on B
- Removed ramp to upper connector lobby
- Removed ammo around upper connector lobby
- Moved ammo on C point to behind the point
- Made two small ammo packs on A and B medium to encourage sentry setups
- Clipped a lot
- Blockbulleted a lot of lips to prevent wonky rocket and blast registration
- Tiny technical changes
- Fog editing
- Texture editing
- Custom prop replacement and optimization
- A few little extras to spice up the map a bit

Screenshots of the somewhat-completed detailing:

 

[Idolon]

C looks a lot better, as do the rocks in the skybox. Good job!

 

[Tarry H Sruman]

 

[Dr. Spud]

He used a tablet to draw that so you know it's good feedback.

 

[cool_myll]

b3_test1 not in the changelog

 

[phi]

B3 RELEASED --
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84556731/cp_edifice/cp_edifice_b3.bsp.bz2

Changelog:
- Added extra flank route from B>C connector to C
- DUSTMOTES!!
- Added cover to C in general
- Added a little cover to B
- Made most power 3 displacements into power 2
- General technical issues
- Reworked some detailed props and func_details to use brushes
- General Optimization
- Clipped off holes on C spire

Screenshots:

 

[phi]

beta 4 released - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84556731/cp_edifice/cp_edifice_b4.bsp.bz2

This will be the last update for the map until at earliest July 3rd. B4 will be played in UGC's 6v6 season 12: http://www.ugcleague.com/maplist_tf26.cfm

I would greatly appreciate it if someone could run through the map and check if everything packed right, I don't have the time and if it isn't I'll need to fix it quickly...

 

[Bloodhound]

Seems like everything is packed right. I haven't seen any errors or magenta textures.

However, this is a bit annoying. Please fix it in the next version.

Spoiler

SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/wood_patch1_small.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/wood_patch4.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/train_tunnel_01.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/wood_patch4.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_spytech/rocket002_skybox.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_spytech/rocket_tower_skybox.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/sawmill_window1a.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/train_tunnel_01.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_forest/train_tunnel_01.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_foliage/tree_pine01_4cluster.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props_skybox/skycards_forest512bump.mdl)

 

[nightwatch]

PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE

Turn this and all other capzone markers into func_doesnotclipwithplayer, or whatever it is actually called.

It's a small thing but every time I jump while going onto the stairs I hit it.

The other solution is to use an overlay instead but I'm guessing you wanted to keep it a brush so that the people with disabled overlays can see it (i.e: 75 % of the competitive community).


Also we've got some z-fighting here, about 32 units worth of overlap.

 

[Sel]

This will be the last update for the map until at earliest July 3rd. B4 will be played in UGC's 6v6 season 12: http://www.ugcleague.com/maplist_tf26.cfm

:3 yay

 

[phi]

post because i forgot to do this yesterday

cp_edifice_test2

After the recent UGC season(s) that have played this map, I have gathered, disregarded, and contemplated many paragraphs of feedback.
I have no idea if it amounted to anything, though, so I decided to hold back an official rc1 release and instead release a "test" version.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84556731/cp_edifice/cp_edifice_test2.bsp.bz2

- A was given a place to defend, where you can't get jumped on and has a decent amount of cover - through tests, this has proven to make the point more defensible and a more viable choice to defend first instead of B.
- B's right side (relative to BLU) was given a raise, which in turn made that area more useful, and which inadvertently made the point a little easier to attack (it seems).
- C got lowered by around 100 units, more or less.
- One of the flanks to C (left side relative to BLU) was removed
- Pretty much every little glitch from the old versions was fixed.