Hold on a second selentic, you are just saying i fucked up.
That's not what I said. Key word: if.
Ifyour map is a failure for play in anything other than 6v6 play, then you've fucked up, pretty massively.
The part that does bother me however is that public players play a map for the first time and judge based on their single experience where they blindlessly die in chokepoints and find the map confusing because it's new to them and therefore not make optimal use of healthpacks and flanking routes.
While I can't speak for everyone, this wasn't my first time on the map. First time on this version, sure, but the layout was still more or less the same from what I could see!
I let the map run in gameday because it hasn't in ages and I like any feedback, but it doesn't warrant the negativity it had received during gameday.
If you don't want to hear the results of the map test if they're negative and no one had a good time, why are you asking for feedback?
It's actually not bullshit that I would say that comp doesn't complain about said issues because at least comp plays it more than once and has a more solid understanding of balance.
I never said it was, I was saying that your writing off of the pub result on the sole basis of, "well it plays fine in comp", was bullshit. You're more than welcome to submit it again, and see if it plays differently, and then maybe we can deliver more comprehensive feedback, but complaining we only played it once, and didn't like it that one time doesn't really change anything.
I also don't understand why you feel the need to defend the public testing so far as gameplay is concerned public hardly plays 5cp for exactly that reason. At least the lower skill level players don't.
Both are valuable, while I too would put a fair bit more weight on comp play and feedback, that doesn't make the way it plays in pubs irrelevant.
And also this forum is a mapmaking forum. not a map for public forum.
Populated almost entirely by pubbies, who are going to give you pubbie feedback
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To be quite honest, the way it looks to me, is that you're just sitting here complaining about how no one had fun playing your map, and instead of trying to find out why everyone responded negatively and solve any potential issues, you're going on about how pubbies just don't know anything about the game or map.