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7:37 PM - flame ♫: best update ever
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Update. No, it probably isn't same total damage over less time.
Steam Forums said:
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Hadn't had a chance to test it myself yet (servers are "too busy" or something).
Kep
i was literally about to make a thread saying "best thread ever" XD
crit-a-cola = 142 and 153 damage meatshots for 6 seconds
flare gun is now UP
backburner is not completely UP (-20% damage for both)
sandman is better
BONK!, which i always loved, i will probably still love. (30 second cooldown is quite harsh).
crit-a-cola = 142 and 153 damage meatshots for 6 seconds
flare gun is now UP
backburner is not completely UP (-20% damage for both)
sandman is better
BONK!, which i always loved, i will probably still love. (30 second cooldown is quite harsh).
The airblasting got a good buff, but I'm not sure if it will compensate for the nerf to flames. The pyro is not a class that needs a nerf.
This is what baffles me though: the pyro is the ONLY dps class in the game, and yet they keep making his dps ability (burning) less and less useful. How does it make sense to mitigate the one thing that differentiates him from other classes?
This is what baffles me though: the pyro is the ONLY dps class in the game, and yet they keep making his dps ability (burning) less and less useful. How does it make sense to mitigate the one thing that differentiates him from other classes?
The pyro seemed well rounded and the only thing i really wished for him was for the airblast to chew up less ammo. Even if it was 20 instead of 25 units. The flare got the minicrit buff so i'm not so concerned about the dps nerf for that, but the flamethrower nerf was surprising. Although the damage at point blank was buffed to 100% months before it now got nerfed by 20%. I can only assume they thought it broke flow (which i guess it kinda did) but that's really the pyro's perk. If he's not good in close combat, and doesn't have the dps to even his mid range performance capabilities then he really doesn't do much at all but sit there reflecting stuff that gets shot at him.
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TheBladeRoden
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Ok, mental note, really shotgun-only time now
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I like the pyro changes, I often get annoyed about the time it takes between two airblasts/airblasts and flames. Everything else is cool. It'll probably be a couple of days before I pplay so they can patch the updates for shit that got broke.
Randdalf
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- Feb 14, 2008
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The pyro has needed a nerf for a long time. And I'm sure all you pyro players are "hfhsdhwhatw+m1asdhashdah" about it, but, it was so intensely annoying to just randomly meet a pyro somewhere in the map and have no chance of escape.
Freight is great, don't diss
When is the engineer update coming though? In retrospect, it might be a little while longer than we thought (was this to tide us over?).
Freight is great, don't diss
When is the engineer update coming though? In retrospect, it might be a little while longer than we thought (was this to tide us over?).
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The problem with the Pyro changes is that it de-emphasizes the ability of the Pyro to do well in combat and over-emphasizes the airblasting, which turns into a big fat nerf as soon as you play against enemies smart enough to put away your rocket launcher and use a shotgun.
The Bad
The Good
The Steam Forums are full of foolish easily-led people who never test a goddamn thing when they can choose to make wild-ass guesses and initiate myths instead. :facepalm: (OK, that came out sort of harsh, but I do post there a lot so there's probably some baggage.)
For the record (tested it with my own little fingers and console commands) afterburn was nerfed. It's the same DPS but it cuts off after 6 seconds instead of 10.
The Bad
- Pyro loses 20% in direct flamethrower/backburner damage
- Pyro loses 40% in afterburn damage. It simply stops burning sooner. Sucks for the flaregun.
- The Heavy changes. The Heavy needs some help, but adding blanket buffs isn't necessary, he needs buffs that involve player skill and interaction rather than passive ones.
- The faster airblast refire rate and minicrits. They're useful, but not what I'd like to see.
The Good
- Airblast ammo usage decreased
- Most of the other stuff.
The Steam Forums are full of foolish easily-led people who never test a goddamn thing when they can choose to make wild-ass guesses and initiate myths instead. :facepalm: (OK, that came out sort of harsh, but I do post there a lot so there's probably some baggage.)
For the record (tested it with my own little fingers and console commands) afterburn was nerfed. It's the same DPS but it cuts off after 6 seconds instead of 10.
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Retroid
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Come on though, mini-crit on projectiles and shorter re-use period! That's me now kicking ass against Soldiers and Demos, Flame plus critaxe Heavys and just flame everyone else. Pyro *is* well rounded. Can Pyro's now mini-crit Sentries? That would be awesome!
Mick-a-nator
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<3
the only part I don't really like is the Bonk! changes, but that's not really a problem.
The pyro part should be good, promote use of airblasting! thing is, the first 2 points of that, do they affect the backburner too? I don't think they should, 'cos that could then balance the backburner I think...
the only part I don't really like is the Bonk! changes, but that's not really a problem.
The pyro part should be good, promote use of airblasting! thing is, the first 2 points of that, do they affect the backburner too? I don't think they should, 'cos that could then balance the backburner I think...
