PLR Nightfall
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I'm saying that it blocks my game, and the ping with net_graph 1 is going 400.
too bad you rebuild stage 3. i liked the finish with the downward ramps so much :laugh: maybe you can do a little mix between the old & new stage inside the buildung/hill 
I really liked the map. The best one
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Ping is the number of ticks it takes to relay a command between you and the server. FPS is the number of changes to the image your video card can make per second. They're totally different.
we had a weird bug on stage 1 yesterday. soldier killed me while i pushed the cart. but it didn't stopped until i pushed it again xD
pls remove the bugged rain in the next release
pls remove the bugged rain in the next release
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Just because they're seperate processes does not mean one does not effect the other. Your GPU will only produce frames at the rate at which it recieves the necassery data, which directly effects your FPS regardless of your refresh rate settings/capability. If the server does not update the client, the new frames are not rendered as it interrupts the data input to the GPU. This issue is a communication problem that can occur at the client or server side. Whilst other latency issues such as enemy players jittering through the environment is a communication issue from that client and the server, as such the server is still updating you with information, so the GPU still renders the data it recieves at a continual rate (the enemy staying still at places is because their position failed to update). Your FPS is not effected by this latter issue as a result, but it is by your client - server communication problems.
edit: Additional fact: the ability to change ones own update rates was an issue in pre-source games and coined the term "rate hackers" who exploited how damage and deaths was (and still is) worked out client side. Individuals were able to purposely not update enemy player positions so that they could get easier shots on momentary stationary targets. 2 of the 3 manual rate commands have been made inaccessible by Valve in Source.
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Congrats for beating me! D: I got Beatz'd.
Nah, you did a great job, keep on improving and finishing it!
-dbp
Nah, you did a great job, keep on improving and finishing it!
-dbp
- Apr 9, 2008
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First of all, thanks to everyone who helped and supported me during the development of this map. You all individually deserve a crate full of delicious Heavy-approved sandviches.
Now I shall express my current situation which is having absolutely no idea what to do with Stage 3 any more. I was planning to have this map done by the end of the year but it seems that won't come true.
Opinions were split about the old stage and the whole mechanic of the giant rolldown has been subject to a love/hate relationship from many people. This is why I created the new stage 3 without the rolldown mechanic and with a focus on side-by-side conflicts that occur along tracks that are close together. Now I fear I've created something that is too small, too complex, and too, well, unfun.
Comments such as...
...combined with others from a variety of other places are the reason why I'm so unclear as to what I should do next.
I could go down the path of either tweaking and reworking the current *new* stage 3 which featured in A12 which will take several weeks or simply push on with detailing the *old* stage 3 despite being in knowledge of the love/hate relationship that people have with it.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun; The new stage 3 has only being tested once, and I shall put it up for testing next week; but I've been at this since August and now the constant deja vu of playtesting with mixed feedback that gives little indication of how to further develop the map is getting incredibly tedious.
Maybe I'm falling into the trap of trying to please everyone; A trap I would very much like to avoid as much FaN Scouts, Huntsman Snipers and the wrong end of Ravidge's sniper rifle.hmy:
In the end I want something that pleases most people, a beta out the door and some closure on the map.
Now I shall express my current situation which is having absolutely no idea what to do with Stage 3 any more. I was planning to have this map done by the end of the year but it seems that won't come true.
Opinions were split about the old stage and the whole mechanic of the giant rolldown has been subject to a love/hate relationship from many people. This is why I created the new stage 3 without the rolldown mechanic and with a focus on side-by-side conflicts that occur along tracks that are close together. Now I fear I've created something that is too small, too complex, and too, well, unfun.
Comments such as...
...combined with others from a variety of other places are the reason why I'm so unclear as to what I should do next.
I could go down the path of either tweaking and reworking the current *new* stage 3 which featured in A12 which will take several weeks or simply push on with detailing the *old* stage 3 despite being in knowledge of the love/hate relationship that people have with it.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun; The new stage 3 has only being tested once, and I shall put it up for testing next week; but I've been at this since August and now the constant deja vu of playtesting with mixed feedback that gives little indication of how to further develop the map is getting incredibly tedious.
Maybe I'm falling into the trap of trying to please everyone; A trap I would very much like to avoid as much FaN Scouts, Huntsman Snipers and the wrong end of Ravidge's sniper rifle.
hmy:In the end I want something that pleases most people, a beta out the door and some closure on the map.
pitto
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if you decide to go with the old stage 3 why dont you try adding the ability to stop the cart moving down if you stand near the enemy cart while it is rolling down - from what I remember you couldn't stop the carts moving down, just increase the speed at which they do so by standing next 2 your own cart
I did have that kind of roll down in solitude a1 for stage b (which got deleted and changed), while it was a disaster for solitude it may work for you since the ramps are right next 2 each other, rather than the opposite side of the map.
I did have that kind of roll down in solitude a1 for stage b (which got deleted and changed), while it was a disaster for solitude it may work for you since the ramps are right next 2 each other, rather than the opposite side of the map.
Vilepickle
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You won a major contest over other good entries with the current stage 3 so I see no reason to change it. Stick with it. Messing with good things means trouble in TF2 mapping most of the time exactly due to the uncertain nature of most feedback.
Besides, you can always make another map with the ideas you get from this one if you're at a major crossroads and have two things that play well.
Besides, you can always make another map with the ideas you get from this one if you're at a major crossroads and have two things that play well.
I agree with Vile. If the final point had been finished/textured, this map would have already earned a spot on our dedicated payload race server (as panic is about to).
