It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Australian Christmas

Prestige

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fairly awful weapons. im not sure if it's a lack of effort or they are designing these weapons purposely to be bad and not change the way a class plays in a fun way (i.e. FLAME OF WAR).

valve actually made a 5cp map and it looks pretty good though maybe a bit flat at mid. i like the look of it.
 
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Sounds like Foundry is going to be a single-stage, five-point attack/defend map. Which I approve of. Also heck yeah Mystery Science Theater 3000 reference.

EDIT: Oh wait, no, it's boring old 5CP after all. How many hundred of those do we have now?
 
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Loc_n_lol

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The screenshot from foundry looks like it's symmetrical, it's most likely a standard 5cp map.

AS for the weapons, too many unknown factors at this time.
 
grazr

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As if certain maps didn't stalemate enough already without airblasts, snipers and spies interupting ubers. Didn't Valve learn their lesson with the cow mangler, a weapon with 5 pro's and no negatives is bound to be OP. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
 
PMAvers

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stevethepocket said:
EDIT: Oh wait, no, it's boring old 5CP after all. How many hundred of those do we have now?
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It's been a while since we've gotten a new good one, though.

Gullywash doesn't count since it's been around for ages.
 
gamemaster1996

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Hmm it'll be okay I guess but I dont think engineers can die now if they can just teleport to spawn
 
Trotim

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cba to write all this again

Trotim sagt (17:29):
ok
oh so there was another dumb tf2 update
lemme skim the stats
David sagt (17:30):
oh yeah
I saw lmao
this fucking
retarded engineer update
thing
with like
Trotim sagt (17:30):
engineer rifle - no ammo, penetrates targets, can't be deflected
David sagt (17:30):
shitty looking guns/hats
yup
Trotim sagt (17:30):
on hit: -10% medigun charge, -20% cloak
that's terrible
wow
lol
do I even have to say why
Trotim sagt (17:31):
you just spam stuff, with no ammo requirement, through waves of enemies
fuck up spies and medics even if they are behind the front
and it's another projectile pyros just
aren't allowed to reflect
lol
very bad
David sagt (17:31):
yup
absolutely retarded
Trotim sagt (17:31):
and the model is fittingly bad
like holy shit
Trotim sagt (17:32):
that's like 3x the geometry it should have
David sagt (17:32):
yup
lol
Trotim sagt (17:32):
wrench
can't carry buildings, teleports to spawn on m2
that's uh
also retarded
you know this great thing we added in the engineer update everyone liked and that made engineer more fun to play?
let's get rid of that and make you sit in your spawn even more
Trotim sagt (17:33):
because that's where the action is
only not at all
sec
Trotim sagt (17:35):
wasn't there some blog post or interview where they said they tried the idea of allowing engineer to teleport back to spawn on his own, as teleporter replacement
and then realized it sucked
pretty sure, but anyway
yeah it's obviously terrible
Trotim sagt (17:36):
not fun either, helps turtling so much more
hey I'll sit here and +m1 my sentry
oh an ubered demo attacks? m2 and start rebuilding instantly without dying or anything
that's silly, engineer was boring enough already
so yeah what else
I don't get the pyro axe
Trotim sagt (17:37):
like, no clue
"Damage transfers to all players connected by Medic beams"
sounds gimmicky at any rate
like
Trotim sagt (17:38):
attacking a heavy that's being healed damages the medic?
but it's just a normal axe
it's gimmicky and useless
oh and also a complete upgrade
flamethrower
no airblast, no random crits
Trotim sagt (17:39):
fire damage fills some meter that heals you and makes you crit
yeah that's gimmicky and stupid and doesn't fit the char and bla bla
even more complexity as well
and of course you won't be able to see if an enemy pyro's meter is near full or not
so that's great
Trotim sagt (17:40):
secondary - no ammo, can't be reflected, gives 1 crit for each teammate extinguished by this weapon
no random crits
another way too complicated model, and weapon
more lasers pew pew
engie rifle is a laser too
brilliant
Trotim sagt (17:41):
and a 5cp map
(ofc no custom maps)
map-specific achievements
that's good
David sagt (17:41):
yup
Trotim sagt (17:41):
and probably the only non-bad part of the whole update
David sagt (17:41):
it's all fucking stupid
David sagt (17:42):
except maybe
the map

well I can't make it smaller or put it in a spoiler tag or something so deal with it
 
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soylent robot

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gamemaster1996 said:
Hmm it'll be okay I guess but I dont think engineers can die now if they can just teleport to spawn
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doesnt that technically count as dying? if you force an eingeer to use that emergency teleport and zap back to the spawn, its pretty much just killing him anyway, sicne he has to walk back from the spawn to where he wants to be
 
Jeremy

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Just seeing those Engie weapons makes me question whether I'll actually want to play TF2 at all for the next few weeks.
 
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Trotim

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soylent robot said:
doesnt that technically count as dying? if you force an eingeer to use that emergency teleport and zap back to the spawn, its pretty much just killing him anyway, sicne he has to walk back from the spawn to where he wants to be
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Only if you're on instant respawn servers. It's a wrench that also allows you to teleport back instantly so he has shorter walking times total if anything.

They found a way to make wrangled Lv3 Sentries on last points even more powerful while making it even more boring for the Engineer himself and his enemies, haha. Going +m1 and only pressing m2 when under attack to instantly rebuild again is great, 2fort will surely be played more now, by Engineers.

Also? A crafty Spy actually made it to your spawn and sapped the teleporters, after a minute of careful infiltration. Let's just hit m2, shoot him and use the teleporter back to our nest! :thumbup1:
 
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Trotim said:
Only if you're on instant respawn servers. It's a wrench that also allows you to teleport back instantly so he has shorter walking times total if anything.

They found a way to make wrangled Lv3 Sentries on last points even more powerful while making it even more boring for the Engineer himself and his enemies, haha. Going +m1 and only pressing m2 when under attack to instantly rebuild again is great, 2fort will surely be played more now, by Engineers.

Also? A crafty Spy actually made it to your spawn and sapped the teleporters, after a minute of careful infiltration. Let's just hit m2, shoot him and use the teleporter back to our nest! :thumbup1:
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But you can't crit. Valid downside amiright?
 
Prestige

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NEW ANALYSIS ON THE NEW WEAPONS

eureka could be good if it was 2-3 seconds to activate, if <2 seconds it's gonna be just as lame as bonk

new engy primary is horrid, playing medic was just too enjoyable right

phlog might be decent, in the end isn't it just a killstreak?

third degree might be hilarious, but too UP. market gardener is hilarious and it's actually useable, this doesnt seem usable.

manmelter. meh rewarding extinguishes, very lame. it might be cool if it was like airblast (so it'd work well with the phlog).

also i have a theory that the foundry map was created just so 5cp's would have some epic finish. im thinking every cauldron explodes in the map or something.
 
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