It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Australian Christmas

Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2 Talk' started by tf2.com, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    fairly awful weapons. im not sure if it's a lack of effort or they are designing these weapons purposely to be bad and not change the way a class plays in a fun way (i.e. FLAME OF WAR).

    valve actually made a 5cp map and it looks pretty good though maybe a bit flat at mid. i like the look of it.
     
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  2. Pocket

    aa Pocket func_croc

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    Sounds like Foundry is going to be a single-stage, five-point attack/defend map. Which I approve of. Also heck yeah Mystery Science Theater 3000 reference.

    EDIT: Oh wait, no, it's boring old 5CP after all. How many hundred of those do we have now?
     
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  3. Loc_n_lol

    Loc_n_lol L10: Glamorous Member

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    The screenshot from foundry looks like it's symmetrical, it's most likely a standard 5cp map.

    AS for the weapons, too many unknown factors at this time.
     
  4. LeSwordfish

    aa LeSwordfish semi-trained quasi-professional

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  5. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    As if certain maps didn't stalemate enough already without airblasts, snipers and spies interupting ubers. Didn't Valve learn their lesson with the cow mangler, a weapon with 5 pro's and no negatives is bound to be OP. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
     
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  6. soylent robot

    soylent robot L7: Fancy Member

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    Manmelter: Gets crits for extinguishing teammates

    Phlognosticator: no airblasts

    wat
     
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  7. Loc_n_lol

    Loc_n_lol L10: Glamorous Member

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    I assumed the manmelter can extinguish friendlies (it says with THIS weapon)
     
  8. PMAvers

    PMAvers L6: Sharp Member

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    It's been a while since we've gotten a new good one, though.

    Gullywash doesn't count since it's been around for ages.
     
  9. gamemaster1996

    gamemaster1996 L13: Stunning Member

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    Hmm it'll be okay I guess but I dont think engineers can die now if they can just teleport to spawn
     
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  10. Trotim

    aa Trotim

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    cba to write all this again

    Trotim sagt (17:29):
    ok
    oh so there was another dumb tf2 update
    lemme skim the stats
    David sagt (17:30):
    oh yeah
    I saw lmao
    this fucking
    retarded engineer update
    thing
    with like
    Trotim sagt (17:30):
    engineer rifle - no ammo, penetrates targets, can't be deflected
    David sagt (17:30):
    shitty looking guns/hats
    yup
    Trotim sagt (17:30):
    on hit: -10% medigun charge, -20% cloak
    that's terrible
    wow
    lol
    do I even have to say why
    Trotim sagt (17:31):
    you just spam stuff, with no ammo requirement, through waves of enemies
    fuck up spies and medics even if they are behind the front
    and it's another projectile pyros just
    aren't allowed to reflect
    lol
    very bad
    David sagt (17:31):
    yup
    absolutely retarded
    Trotim sagt (17:31):
    and the model is fittingly bad
    like holy shit
    Trotim sagt (17:32):
    that's like 3x the geometry it should have
    David sagt (17:32):
    yup
    lol
    Trotim sagt (17:32):
    wrench
    can't carry buildings, teleports to spawn on m2
    that's uh
    also retarded
    you know this great thing we added in the engineer update everyone liked and that made engineer more fun to play?
    let's get rid of that and make you sit in your spawn even more
    Trotim sagt (17:33):
    because that's where the action is
    only not at all
    sec
    Trotim sagt (17:35):
    wasn't there some blog post or interview where they said they tried the idea of allowing engineer to teleport back to spawn on his own, as teleporter replacement
    and then realized it sucked
    pretty sure, but anyway
    yeah it's obviously terrible
    Trotim sagt (17:36):
    not fun either, helps turtling so much more
    hey I'll sit here and +m1 my sentry
    oh an ubered demo attacks? m2 and start rebuilding instantly without dying or anything
    that's silly, engineer was boring enough already
    so yeah what else
    I don't get the pyro axe
    Trotim sagt (17:37):
    like, no clue
    "Damage transfers to all players connected by Medic beams"
    sounds gimmicky at any rate
    like
    Trotim sagt (17:38):
    attacking a heavy that's being healed damages the medic?
    but it's just a normal axe
    it's gimmicky and useless
    oh and also a complete upgrade
    flamethrower
    no airblast, no random crits
    Trotim sagt (17:39):
    fire damage fills some meter that heals you and makes you crit
    yeah that's gimmicky and stupid and doesn't fit the char and bla bla
    even more complexity as well
    and of course you won't be able to see if an enemy pyro's meter is near full or not
    so that's great
    Trotim sagt (17:40):
    secondary - no ammo, can't be reflected, gives 1 crit for each teammate extinguished by this weapon
    no random crits
    another way too complicated model, and weapon
    more lasers pew pew
    engie rifle is a laser too
    brilliant
    Trotim sagt (17:41):
    and a 5cp map
    (ofc no custom maps)
    map-specific achievements
    that's good
    David sagt (17:41):
    yup
    Trotim sagt (17:41):
    and probably the only non-bad part of the whole update
    David sagt (17:41):
    it's all fucking stupid
    David sagt (17:42):
    except maybe
    the map

    well I can't make it smaller or put it in a spoiler tag or something so deal with it
     
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  11. soylent robot

    soylent robot L7: Fancy Member

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    doesnt that technically count as dying? if you force an eingeer to use that emergency teleport and zap back to the spawn, its pretty much just killing him anyway, sicne he has to walk back from the spawn to where he wants to be
     
  12. Jeremy

    Jeremy L11: Posh Member

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    Just seeing those Engie weapons makes me question whether I'll actually want to play TF2 at all for the next few weeks.
     
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  13. Trotim

    aa Trotim

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    Only if you're on instant respawn servers. It's a wrench that also allows you to teleport back instantly so he has shorter walking times total if anything.

    They found a way to make wrangled Lv3 Sentries on last points even more powerful while making it even more boring for the Engineer himself and his enemies, haha. Going +m1 and only pressing m2 when under attack to instantly rebuild again is great, 2fort will surely be played more now, by Engineers.

    Also? A crafty Spy actually made it to your spawn and sapped the teleporters, after a minute of careful infiltration. Let's just hit m2, shoot him and use the teleporter back to our nest! :thumbup1:
     
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  14. soylent robot

    soylent robot L7: Fancy Member

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    good points

    maybe if the teleporting cost metal, it would be okay
     
  15. Sgt Frag

    Sgt Frag L14: Epic Member

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    Yeah well, I posted a similar engi hat here there and everywhere long before that guy made that one also.
     
  16. fubarFX

    aa fubarFX The "raw" in "nodraw"

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    who cares if it costs metal, you're teleporting next to the resupply :|
     
  17. HellJumper

    aa HellJumper

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    But you can't crit. Valid downside amiright?
     
  18. Harribo

    aa Harribo

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    Before the Polycount contest? Why haven't you put it up in the workshop then?
     
  19. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    NEW ANALYSIS ON THE NEW WEAPONS

    eureka could be good if it was 2-3 seconds to activate, if <2 seconds it's gonna be just as lame as bonk

    new engy primary is horrid, playing medic was just too enjoyable right

    phlog might be decent, in the end isn't it just a killstreak?

    third degree might be hilarious, but too UP. market gardener is hilarious and it's actually useable, this doesnt seem usable.

    manmelter. meh rewarding extinguishes, very lame. it might be cool if it was like airblast (so it'd work well with the phlog).

    also i have a theory that the foundry map was created just so 5cp's would have some epic finish. im thinking every cauldron explodes in the map or something.
     
  20. A Boojum Snark

    aa A Boojum Snark Toraipoddodezain Mazahabado

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    Yes, but you would have to have the metal to teleport in the first place.
     
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