Difference Between "Clip" and "Player Clip" brushes?

Discussion in 'Mapping Questions & Discussion' started by Illius, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. Illius

    Illius L2: Junior Member

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    So for a while I was using "Clip" brushes but I'm looking at official maps and they use "Player Clip" and I'm just curious, what differences do they have? Obviously enough to be marked seperate, but what else?
     
  2. zahndah

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    essentially, in other source games bots aren't regarded as players (but they are in tf2). So in the other games clip would clip bots and players, whereas playerclip would only clip players. However in tf2 bots cant walk through playerclip anyways so there is no difference there.
     
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  3. iiboharz

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    In TF2 playerclip and clip are basically identical in functionality for standard maps.
     
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  4. Beef Bucket

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  5. UKCS-Alias

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    If im right in CSS en CSGO bots are still considered as players. Even in l4d. But in l4d you have even more clip types.
     
  6. Grubzer

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    Playerclip blocks players and bots, clip block bots, players and projectiles
     
  7. Crowbar

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    Bots are technically players and TECNICALLY can do everything players can do, so this was unnecessary.
    So, player clip and clip are indentical in TF2.
    No clipping blocks projectiles, by the way.
     
  8. Dr. Orange

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    They are used in HL2 to block both players and NPCs. There also an NPC clip texture that only blocks NPCs. It doesn't work against bots in any Source game afaik, as bots aren't considered NPCs, but bots.
     
  9. Illius

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    Interesting, so in TF2 it doesn't matter though. Alright. Good to know!
     
  10. Grubzer

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    Well, when i tested clipping, it was my early days of mapping. Maybe i forgot something.
     
  11. henke37

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    How about the bosses, do they count as NPCs?
     
  12. killohurtz

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    I tested different types of clips with the green Halloween skeletons once and they were treated just like players, so this probably extends to all non-playerbot entities that require a nav mesh.
     
  13. Grubzer

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    Well... Idk about merasmus and hhh, but looks like monoculus can fly through some clip brushes. Or not. Somebody must do research on that theme.
     
  14. Muddy

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    This is the only answer you need tbh. In TF2 those textures do exactly the same thing.
     
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  15. henke37

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    The textures do nothing. It's all in the materials.
     
  16. worMatty

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    *head* *desk*
     
  17. Nicky

    aa Nicky Lets try something new!

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    Sounds painful.