- Thread starter Hanz
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I finally decided to make my contest entry version of Panamint Springs, so.. here it is!
Download ctf_panamint_a17 now!
- Textured almost whole map
- Added custom intel by Rexy
- Optimized the map (with thanks to Rexy for help with areaportals!)
- Added new building to stage 2 to prevent demo-jump-capturing 2-2
- ..
Download ctf_panamint_a17 now!
Download ctf_panamint_a17 now!
- Textured almost whole map
- Added custom intel by Rexy
- Optimized the map (with thanks to Rexy for help with areaportals!)
- Added new building to stage 2 to prevent demo-jump-capturing 2-2
- ..
Download ctf_panamint_a17 now!
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First off you need to reduce the amount of rooms and doors in your buildings. Blade suffered from the same issues with deadwood. So you're not the only one to fall into this trap. But i have already told you this from a7 regarding the first stage. Remove that door with the X on it. It reduces the effect of grenade and rocket spam from Red's vatange high ground. Allowing Blu to rally.
This focuses player direction, either left and up, right and down. Remove the stairs on the outside, and from the inside of the building behind. This way the CP becomes a stronghold point and a memorable part of your map.
Be sure to emphasise the "raise" in the rocky bridge structure. You don't want to give Blu too much of an advantage to attack from so the rise in the bridge gives the blu something to aim for. Since when crossing the bridge Blu are bottle necked the "rise" gives some balance to this route, rewarding Blu for pushing forwards. But also rewarding Red for counter attacking beyond the CP area.
Such a structure within the map should be a focal point in your map as it is unique and interesting.
Showing this area from another angle. It's important to give Blu some cover from direct fire. Snipers should only be able to kill assaulting enemies, but additionally applies to other classes as well. The grenade arch is a part of the weapon that is to be exploited in a scenario like this, shooting from the low to high ground.
apologies if this seems out of scale. I ended up possibly putting too much information into this paint over image.
The water adds extra dynamism to the area. Fleeing defenders are stranded in a nomans land area if seeking the water for an extinguish.
The important part of this image is the background buildings. I've purposefully left the CP area bland as attempts to add cover and what have you can be implemented at your discretion.
The far right building could ultimately be controlled by either teams demo's/solly's which should make for some interesting gameplay, although with 2 direct routes and and indirect route from the left building (from Blu's perspective) this building may seem redundant/insignificant and nullified (become none playable area) at a later date if testing proves this to be true. I had considered it being open to all classes but 3 direct routes for a Stage 2 CP 2 seemed excessive.
In the grand scheme of the routes i am still concerned about the Blu having direct access to the high ground on the left. I was thinking perhaps of a sepetate ledge, something like.. *placeholder*
I seem to be missing another image.... i'll take a look.
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It's getting complicated now D:
Technically, it's getting simpler. The main issue with panamint is that routes are too complicated, disorientate player movement and split the team up too much.
You have Blu fighting up 2 height levels just to get to the first CP. Lower the CP, and this will decrease difficulty.
Due to the fact the CP is inside the building and thus not directly visible, you need more obvious signage. The main route can also be designed so that it influences players towards the CP rather than straight up the middle to the next area.
How ever, given the above modification, a direct line of sight of the CP from the main route should be apparent.
The cave to the left should be modified so it only provides access to the roof of the building. Right now it comes out on 2 "floors". The cave itself isn't entirely necassery and its lower floor can be removed altogether.
Additional comments:
Remove this spawn exit as it is possible to pop an invuln from within spawn and reach the "new" CP location. You will still need a spawn exit that exits from relative safety however, so move it to here.
See above. (third image)
Mostly you answered this yourself. Additionally:
You want to build up to the finale and you have not produced that effect. This might be achieved by 3 capture areas rather than 2. The finale should be more open as well.
But we can deal with Stage 3 later.
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grazr is credit to team! 
grazr is credit to team!
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- Apr 19, 2009
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bumping We want to see this map get done!