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[Simski]

Perhaps the pit of death can be a poisoned spring?

Fill it with water, add some stuff that implies that it was used as a water source, add a tipped over bottle dripping poison into the spring.
Perhaps add a stranger color to the water.
Put the death line a little bit below the water line so you won't die instantly when you fall into it, but high enough that you can't escape hitting it when falling into the water.

 

[MangyCarface]

Perhaps the pit of death can be a poisoned spring?

Fill it with water, add some stuff that implies that it was used as a water source, add a tipped over bottle dripping poison into the spring.
Perhaps add a stranger color to the water.
Put the death line a little bit below the water line so you won't die instantly when you fall into it, but high enough that you can't escape hitting it when falling into the water.

too much narrative!... story should be 90% composed in the minds of those playing your map. Confine them too much to an idea and I believe you lose some of the magic in the art of implication

 

[Simski]

too much narrative!... story should be 90% composed in the minds of those playing your map. Confine them too much to an idea and I believe you lose some of the magic in the art of implication

Darn

I just liked the idea of having a little more unique death pit, but having it make sense that water kills you is hard unless you involve an explanation... or if you're playing GTA.

 

[Micnax]

Darn

I just liked the idea of having a little more unique death pit, but having it make sense that water kills you is hard unless you involve an explanation... or if you're playing GTA.

Or just put purple smoke around it and call it poisonous?

 

[Chemical Alia]

Or just put purple smoke around it and call it poisonous?

I don't know if people are going to want to hang around a CP hovering over a pit of poisonous smoke, lol.

 

[MangyCarface]

I don't know if people are going to want to hang around a CP hovering over a pit of poisonous smoke, lol.

idk poisonous smoke hovers over my ass pit yet it still brings all the boys to the yard

 

[Chemical Alia]

idk poisonous smoke hovers over my ass pit yet it still brings all the boys to the yard

But them TF2 guys got some classy high standards!

 

[Goombac]

My big problem with the areas outside of C is that they have kind of awkward geometry. It may just be WIP,. Even around A and around BLU spawn the walls just look out of place, although I'm guessing it's just placeholder. I'm with Mangy on destroying the displacements and creating your own and really making this map your own little creation.

 

[J4CK8]

I don't know if people are going to want to hang around a CP hovering over a pit of poisonous smoke, lol.

But you're happy to go stand under a huge rocket and capture a point? Or push a very explosive cart into a very explosive pit?

Anyway, I'm loving this theme, hope it gets put to good use when you release the 'pack'

 

[Whark]

My big problem with the areas outside of C is that they have kind of awkward geometry. It may just be WIP,. Even around A and around BLU spawn the walls just look out of place, although I'm guessing it's just placeholder. I'm with Mangy on destroying the displacements and creating your own and really making this map your own little creation.

Yea. Its the challenge of artiing out someone else's level without too many gameplay alterations. I find working in this theme in this level, which clearly feels like it would be at peace with a mining or industrial theme, extremely painful. Every change, every shape brings out a plethora of other problems. If I had my own whitebox that had this theme in mind this would be a much easier task. I knew what I was getting into but didn't anticipate the difficulty properly. It seems that TF2's art style would be freeing, but in fact, its very, very, very restricting. More restricting then any other game I've mapped for in fact. I'm not finding that very enjoyable at the moment.

 

[Goombac]

Well worst case scenario you make your own map or detail someone else's with this theme! Really hope you finish, I'm loving the theme.

You could also look at de_dust and dust2 (if you haven't already) and use that architecture for inspiration.

 

[EArkham]

I knew what I was getting into but didn't anticipate the difficulty properly. It seems that TF2's art style would be freeing, but in fact, its very, very, very restricting. More restricting then any other game I've mapped for in fact. I'm not finding that very enjoyable at the moment.

Me, too. I'm finding it very tough to get my theme to work well within the TF2 universe. So far I've changed my plans for A & B about three times each now. The only plans staying consistent have been for C, but that's been more or less standard spytech.

So yeah, I feel your pain.

Kep

 

[Chemical Alia]

But you're happy to go stand under a huge rocket and capture a point? Or push a very explosive cart into a very explosive pit?

Anyway, I'm loving this theme, hope it gets put to good use when you release the 'pack'

Oh, no. I thought Whark mentioned that he abandoned that idea already because it doesn't make sense.

But uh, I did some paintovers for the area around B that I was hoping to get some thoughts on this afternoon, but totally forgot to upload them so I could post them at work. Oops!

 

[Whark]

Oh, no. I thought Whark mentioned that he abandoned that idea already because it doesn't make sense.

Not because it doesn't make sense but because I like Pulp Fiction.

 

[Chemical Alia]

Not because it doesn't make sense but because I like Pulp Fiction.

IS THAT WHAT I THINK IT IS

I'm trying to think of some names for business, events, etc. that I can make signs and posters out of in a bit. So far I have come up with these:

The Screaming Monkey Antiques and Consignment
Oasis Plumbing

lol so if anyone has a raging desire to suggest something, I'd love to hear it.

 

[Goombac]

Raiders of the Lost Ark style? Have an ark under the point and when BLU captures the point it opens and C falls apart?

 

[Gerbil]

Couldn't think of a name, but maybe something with/about hookahs?

 

[LeSwordfish]

Pridnall's paraphernalia, with alam's fans!
For Hookahs and blow.

 

[Draco18s]

Put the death line a little bit below the water line so you won't die instantly when you fall into it, but high enough that you can't escape hitting it when falling into the water.

I've actually done this in my map. So far only a scout (yay double jump) can "survive" the jump (I suppose that means I need to move the deathbrush up some) but I don't feel that it's a real issue. You HAVE to keep moving or you'll sink and die.

But I'll be putting in a roaming gator which I can also give a "train-like" deathbrush as well.

In any case, the placement of the deathbrush (height of the water level or not) I figure is one of those things that doesn't disqualify a map. I figure that the winning map will likely get a few cosmetic changes by Valve before it goes live anyway (the location of the deathbrush--if its deemed an issue--would take seconds to move back up).

 

[Pocket]

I propose that the death pit be filled with poisonous snakes.