Snipergen
L13: Stunning Member
- Nov 16, 2007
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No they dont you see a player warp up a wall thats not what you want if you are a mapper with eye for detail
No they dont you see a player warp up a wall thats not what you want if you are a mapper with eye for detail
They are not real ladders, real ladders do not exist in the game code. Those are just very thin stairs so that you run up them quickly and vertically, try going down them and you'll see what I mean.
Kirko
L2: Junior Member
- Jan 16, 2008
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u dont need all the signs. people new to the map will hardly even look at them. they just wonder around and will figure it out. its not a tough map to learn where stuff is. really like that ur making this map turn out great. badlands is one of my favorite maps for tfc. make sure to not jib us engies on the metal and building spots tho by the flag. i like the water in the valley too.
Do not remove signage. I've found in Beta tests (ones where I stand right over the person's shoulder [Thank LANs]) that new people do use signs to navigate. Badlands was one of the largest TFC maps, both volume and alternate pathways considered, and it follows that it's one of the toughest to learn. Maybe you don't have a problem with it because it's "one of your favorite maps for tfc."
Kirko
L2: Junior Member
- Jan 16, 2008
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idk. i think dustbowl is hardest to learn. i mean badlands is just a base with a spiral, a bridge, and a valley. no really that hard.
Love that canyon!
I just played the b2 version of this map. First of all, job well done!!!
A few minor remarks:
- I'd remove the health/ammo packs from the sniper nest overlooking the canyon, there is a resup nearby and without the health/ammo packs snipers are at least forced to retreat once in a while.
- In one of the resups you added 2 siderooms with no real purpose (other than confusing me ). I think there is no reason to keep these.
Other than these remarks I think the map is absolutely fabulous
A few minor remarks:
- I'd remove the health/ammo packs from the sniper nest overlooking the canyon, there is a resup nearby and without the health/ammo packs snipers are at least forced to retreat once in a while.
- In one of the resups you added 2 siderooms with no real purpose (other than confusing me
). I think there is no reason to keep these.Other than these remarks I think the map is absolutely fabulous
Kirko
L2: Junior Member
- Jan 16, 2008
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I just played the b2 version of this map. First of all, job well done!!!
A few minor remarks:
- I'd remove the health/ammo packs from the sniper nest overlooking the canyon, there is a resup nearby and without the health/ammo packs snipers are at least forced to retreat once in a while.
- In one of the resups you added 2 siderooms with no real purpose (other than confusing me
Other than these remarks I think the map is absolutely fabulous
those packs are there on the first one. and there is no real purpose of them because the other team cant even use them. but it helps so if there is a sniper who snipes there(never saw a sniper there playing the game its just a boring spot) to defend his side better without having to run back because by time he would of gotten back they would already be up there.
Are we talking about the same sniper nest? Because I remember picking up the powerups inside the enemy nest. I'm talking about the nest covering the 'back entrance' to the base. The resup is just around the corner for the players defending that spot, so there is ample time to run back and forth.
Kirko
L2: Junior Member
- Jan 16, 2008
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but then the enemy doesnt have any healthpacks/ammo for them. they cant use that resupply.
True. But I think adding the powerups to the lower sniperdeck (the one you have to crouch to get into) might do the trick
That way enemy snipers can be chased away.Another small error I found, it's possible to sticky jump on top of the canyon.
Screenshot of me facing enemy sniper nests. Promptly got me called a cheater. I really didn't jump 'through' the map or walls or anything, but it's possible to sticky/rocket jump on top of the rock formations in the canyon and walk over them.
I just played the b2 version of this map. First of all, job well done!!!
A few minor remarks:
- I'd remove the health/ammo packs from the sniper nest overlooking the canyon, there is a resup nearby and without the health/ammo packs snipers are at least forced to retreat once in a while.
- In one of the resups you added 2 siderooms with no real purpose (other than confusing me
Other than these remarks I think the map is absolutely fabulous
The main spawn is actually the side room, because in TF2 you can't bring the flag into the real spawn room. So I had to make a spawn area to keep the original cap area.
The rest is just for decoration, but thats why I put the barricade in the 'machinery room'
I did remove the ammopack from the sniper deck, I don't think that's too bad of a change. I also made all the packs small. I might remove the one from the flag exit also if that is a big exploit.
True. But I think adding the powerups to the lower sniperdeck (the one you have to crouch to get into) might do the trick
Another small error I found, it's possible to sticky jump on top of the canyon.
Screenshot of me facing enemy sniper nests. Promptly got me called a cheater. I really didn't jump 'through' the map or walls or anything, but it's possible to sticky/rocket jump on top of the rock formations in the canyon and walk over them.
I'll try moving the health to the lower sniper deck, maybe people will use it more then?
When I compiled this map, I forgot to include the player clips so thats one of the reasons it is so buggy.
*sign* Somewhere along the line my red base got some geometry offset. I'll have to splice in a older map file but I have made some good progress.
1) Fixed (hopefully) the "can't find the flag" issue.
2) Added more player clips (spiral stairs, stairs, etc)
3) tweaked the displacements and added displacements to spawn room.
1) Fixed (hopefully) the "can't find the flag" issue.
2) Added more player clips (spiral stairs, stairs, etc)
3) tweaked the displacements and added displacements to spawn room.
Hammer ate my map file and my autosaves did not go back far enough.
Because of hammers instability, just trying to clone the bad parts of the base is resulting in it producing more buggy hamer errors.
SOOO.
I need to load up a older map of beta2, then implement all the changes I made in beta3 into it. This will take a while so I unfortunaly Beta3 wont be released tonight, it will be released Monday at the earliest as it will take several hours to redo the map from beta2, and I am in no mental state to do it right now.
Because of hammers instability, just trying to clone the bad parts of the base is resulting in it producing more buggy hamer errors.
SOOO.
I need to load up a older map of beta2, then implement all the changes I made in beta3 into it. This will take a while so I unfortunaly Beta3 wont be released tonight, it will be released Monday at the earliest as it will take several hours to redo the map from beta2, and I am in no mental state to do it right now.
i know what you mean about hammer, its happened twice to me, and Valve simply told me they don't directly support hammer. I miss sandbox's features of auto recovery, and crash recovery ( where you could save your map before it crashed ).
Anyways keep your hopes up, and remember displacements are your friends
Anyways keep your hopes up, and remember displacements are your friends
Fragimus_Max
L3: Member
- Jan 13, 2008
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Two of them, in fact.
One that seems like a port, possibly from FF, and one that's more TF2 themed and not all that bad.
The port uses HL2 texturing, so it doesn't really feel right - but plays more like the original.
I, personally, would like to see more CTF maps.
Well... I asked that 3 months ago. I knew about the one stolen from FF but don't count it, because even that is modified and thus not classic. (and it was stolen)