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My attempt to detail a spawn room:
I'm not very good with lighting. :\ Just trying to detail areas that won't affect gameplay. Hoping to still get a few more tests in.
I'm not very good with lighting. :\ Just trying to detail areas that won't affect gameplay. Hoping to still get a few more tests in.
Those ceiling beams are look out of place and are too long to be free-supported concrete structures.
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First attempt, will re-render and see how dark I can get that ceiling. I agree, I really think the size of the mine is more emphasized with a darker ceiling
A tip for doing dimly lit areas is to use fog. The way l4d uses fog is something you could consider here.
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seth
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My attempt to detail a spawn room:
I'm not very good with lighting. :\ Just trying to detail areas that won't affect gameplay. Hoping to still get a few more tests in.
Add the pinup calendar or some other poster to that wall above the bench, I think it'd be fitting.
Spawnroomy things to add:
Also that red sign on the floor loooks fuuuuuuuugggggly. Change it to being just the white tiles and use the red sign as an overlay (keep the brown trim around the very edge of the room)
- Clock
- Fire bell
- Lightswitches (and conduits or wires to each light)
- Dumbbells
- Towel racks
- Lockers
- Sandwich bags
- Tape rolls and areosol cans
- Exit sign
- Fire extinguisher
Also that red sign on the floor loooks fuuuuuuuugggggly. Change it to being just the white tiles and use the red sign as an overlay (keep the brown trim around the very edge of the room)
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Some images from my entry to the detail part of the Tale of 2 Skillsets.
Still need to adjust some things (fog, some lighting, displacements, etc...), but overall pretty happy.
More images:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e5eu2pxo7b6lwno/pZFRVILUnM
Still need to adjust some things (fog, some lighting, displacements, etc...), but overall pretty happy.
More images:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e5eu2pxo7b6lwno/pZFRVILUnM
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Theo, all your direct linked images don't work, the dropbox album does though. Your detail density is too much. It not crazy off the charts prop hunt map level but it's too much. The amount of overlays specifically, it's taking away from the actual useful overlays too much I feel in the interior. Also using the same overlay aka that nuclear one more than once should hopefully not be too close to each other. The 3rd image makes that brick building look really boxy, though it may just be because it's the focus of the image and might be unnoticeable ingame.
The dark wooden beams are crazy off the charts levels of intense though, you might want to tone those down a ton. Especially on the metal buildings, doubly so for the blue metal, I'd remove them entirely from images 6-8
Your fog colour and intensity is also crazy wrong. The big...shapes... in the background seem to be 100% fogged out which is not what should be happening, since the mountains in the skybox are still very visible. The fog colour should be the same as the sky on the horizon.
The lightglows around your flourescent lights are a bit much in some of the shots.
The zigzaggy wires look ridiculous in screenshot 13.
Overall I think it's pretty good and I disagree with harribo about detail desnity, I just think those wooden beams are stupendusly thick and intimidating.
(also roof metal shouldn't be any thicker than 6 units. 4 preferably)
Your fog colour and intensity is also crazy wrong. The big...shapes... in the background seem to be 100% fogged out which is not what should be happening, since the mountains in the skybox are still very visible. The fog colour should be the same as the sky on the horizon.
The lightglows around your flourescent lights are a bit much in some of the shots.
The zigzaggy wires look ridiculous in screenshot 13.
Overall I think it's pretty good and I disagree with harribo about detail desnity, I just think those wooden beams are stupendusly thick and intimidating.
(also roof metal shouldn't be any thicker than 6 units. 4 preferably)
I agree with haribo about overlay density, at least judging by the available pictures. their usage is fine, just that having more than one warning, notice, advert sign, etc. per wall can distract attention. just something to consider.
edit: also the theming of the overlays and the companies/areas they represent are a bit awkward. blu industries, husky acres, grey gravel co, something nugget, mining, sea side, mine tours, coal, Mann co. etc.
So the setting of your map is that it is a mountainous facility of sorts that has grain silos and produces or manages grains, manages gravel, does mining, is a coal mine, has direct train access for shipping, and is also a Mann co facility?
edit: also the theming of the overlays and the companies/areas they represent are a bit awkward. blu industries, husky acres, grey gravel co, something nugget, mining, sea side, mine tours, coal, Mann co. etc.
So the setting of your map is that it is a mountainous facility of sorts that has grain silos and produces or manages grains, manages gravel, does mining, is a coal mine, has direct train access for shipping, and is also a Mann co facility?
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takabuschik
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@theo
I'll write some ideas I got for your map from the screenshots, since I really like the idea (making berry's map non-industrial), but there are some things I didn't really like (most of them already mentioned).
in pic 4, I'd remove the red grain-machinery besides the fuel building, I think it looks kind of strange
in pic 5,6,8 (and some others as well) the skybox rock and antenna looks really white. Change the fog settings
in pic 7 there's a small displacement seam in the left
The cave is done really nicely in my opinion (altough it has too many signs in it)
in pic 15 there's a door to the right of the "do not enter" sign that looks a bit too worn out in comparison to the walls IMO
in 2nd cp area the buildings look like they should have more windows (especially the red metal ones to the left. they look a bit like you didn't finish yet working on them
pic 27 looks really nice. I suppose it's out of the gameplay area?
In red's spawn (pic 25, 26), I think it'll look better if you removed the light sprites from the florucent lights.
I'll write some ideas I got for your map from the screenshots, since I really like the idea (making berry's map non-industrial), but there are some things I didn't really like (most of them already mentioned).
in pic 4, I'd remove the red grain-machinery besides the fuel building, I think it looks kind of strange
in pic 5,6,8 (and some others as well) the skybox rock and antenna looks really white. Change the fog settings
in pic 7 there's a small displacement seam in the left
The cave is done really nicely in my opinion (altough it has too many signs in it)
in pic 15 there's a door to the right of the "do not enter" sign that looks a bit too worn out in comparison to the walls IMO
in 2nd cp area the buildings look like they should have more windows (especially the red metal ones to the left. they look a bit like you didn't finish yet working on them
pic 27 looks really nice. I suppose it's out of the gameplay area?
In red's spawn (pic 25, 26), I think it'll look better if you removed the light sprites from the florucent lights.
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COMPLETELY redid lighting. Everything that is not a light source visible as a prop is now a point spotlight instead of a general light. This means that because all the light is directed towards the ground, the ceiling is very much unlit. The fog has been intensified, with a distance of 4500 hammer units instead of 6000 now. Everything looks lit as it should, with nothing more than is needed. There may be minor changes needed, but I'm much happier with the lighting now.
