New prop_static feature?

[Freyja]

I love how it displays my name in the corner, to make sure I can't escape the guilt that is my modelling techniques.

It's not a bad modelling technique at all, it's quite smart. It just doesn't work when baking lightmaps, and to be fair, we've not had that in source before now on models

 

[YM]

TBH all good engines accept two UV channels. One for the texture where reusing space is A-OK, and one for lightmaps where everything has to be unique.

 

[Lampenpam]

TBH all good engines accept two UV channels. One for the texture where reusing space is A-OK, and one for lightmaps where everything has to be unique.

Well this feature seems to be still WIP since it looks really strange with low graphic options

 

[wareya]

Well this feature seems to be still WIP since it looks really strange with low graphic options

Maybe that's my problem. Are there any commands that prevent lightmaps on static props from working?

 

[henke37]

I think it might be the actual shader that is buggy. The only fix there is to pick a higher directx level so that you get a different shader.

 

[Dr. Sasha]

Another screen showing off the new lightmaps on models:

Wow, looks like something out of Unity or Unreal with those shaders.

 

[henke37]

Except that it's prerendered lightmaps. It's not realtime and can't do animations. Dynamic shadows in source still suck.

Really, the shader isn't complex at all. It's literally reading a texture value and multiplying the usual value with it.

 

[Idolon]

Wow, looks like something out of Unity or Unreal with those shaders.

Except that it's prerendered lightmaps. It's not realtime and can't do animations. Dynamic shadows in source still suck.

Really, the shader isn't complex at all. It's literally reading a texture value and multiplying the usual value with it.

looks

He never said that they were in fact Unity/Unreal shaders, but simply that they looked like them.

 

[Snowshoe]

Maybe that's my problem. Are there any commands that prevent lightmaps on static props from working?

I think mat_picmip has to be 0 or -1 for it to work. (High or Very High texture quality)

Also, the reason the black sky is missing on rd_asteroid for some people is because they have r_3dsky set to 0. That's why you see the goldrush skybox instead.

Not sure if dxlevel 8.1 or 8.0 causes it to break, but you can try dxlevel 9.5

 

[Pocket]

EDIT: It does, however, not like phong shading at all. So it doesn't seem to work on models with phong on their textures.

And to be fair, neither does vertex lighting.

I've been pushing for something like this for ages, but my version would have been something more like allowing LightmappedGeneric materials to be used in models and recompiling certain models that have large flat surfaces to grab the lightmapped material for those portions only, so you still have good-looking lighting on the detail trim. So, for example, the shipping crates could be all lightmapped, while a theoretical delivery truck could have a lightmapped box and a vertex-lit cab and wheels.

It's my understanding that vertex lighting was implemented in the first place because the amount of fine detail in models and the amount of distortion and papercraft-style folding in UV maps makes lightmaps impractical for anything but large, mostly-flat surfaces. So having to go all-or-nothing on a given model is still a bad idea.

 

[YM]

From today's update:

Fixed zebra-style art on static props on systems that used lower texture quality

FIXED!

 

[Dain]

I tried applying this to Hydro's dam. One very long compile later and it looked like poop

 

[Fruity Snacks]

I tried applying this to Hydro's dam. One very long compile later and it looked like poop

Isn't that because it's a skybox prop?

 

[Dain]

Isn't that because it's a skybox prop?

Possibly. It also doesn't have a back to it, so that might be it ?

I might try it with other props in other maps.

 

[Lampenpam]

Possibly. It also doesn't have a back to it, so that might be it ?

I might try it with other props in other maps.

lower the lightmap resolution maybe.

 

[Snowshoe]

Heads up, looks like bspsource has been somewhat updated for the new TF2 prop_static stuff.

No new release yet, but soon I suppose.

 

[henke37]

Good to hear.

 

[Lampenpam]

Heads up, looks like bspsource has been somewhat updated for the new TF2 prop_static stuff.

No new release yet, but soon I suppose.

I thought bspsource dosn't work with the new sdk?
And it has still trouble packing mp3

 

[Freyja]

bspsource is a decompiler.

you're thinking of packbsp

 

[Lampenpam]

bspsource is a decompiler.

you're thinking of packbsp

oh yeah. Must have been really late when I posted x)