Glacier

CP Glacier RC6

Hellfire

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after a week of testing your map was put on regular rotation on NETORN #1 (89.222.192.200:27027) server. in a week it will also be on a main NETORN #2 server.

this is one of 7 maps i advertised to the admins as best community maps , and its first that was included in rotation. thx for a great map
 

Phobos

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The map got playtested yesterday on my favorite server.

The general responses were positive, everyone said that it's visually very impressive. Also people liked the layout, although some got lost while defending (well, first time on the map).

Still, even though the map was very well received for being pretty and accessible, everyone on the server complained about their game getting jittery at B and C. Some even had problems at A. Right now it looks like that they won't put it into their mapcycle because of this. :(
 

Buck

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Jun 9, 2009
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Really nice map, i could say A needs some wood planks across some cracks so you cant fall into as many cracks. Also clip the roofs so you cant get on everywhere, it causes big inbalances in my opinion. Also most of the map seems to be terribly optimised, i used mat_wireframe to see whats going on and while standing at A my pc draws pretty much full A, and noticed you dont have areaportals on doorways and such. I know its still in progress but my fps drops down to 80-40 from 200 which is pretty poor. Cant wait to see the map when it is more optimized ! good luck mate :)
 
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I'm really disappointed in Valve right now.
I mailed them a month ago about glacier and again when the rc was released.
They said they'd test it and give feedback but I haven't recieved any yet.
And now they make a snow theme and throw out a small koth map, ignoring glacier.
Worst of all; glacier lost everything unique about it, as these forums will be packed full of snow maps.
 

Psy

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That's a real kick in the balls and I'm completely sympathetic.

Maybe you should follow them up?
 
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If I say anything to them, I'll just make things worse.
It'd be great if you guys could send Valve a mail about this whole thing, to make them at least notice glacier.
 

evanonline

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I wouldn't see this as discouraging, but as a motivation.

Glacier is still really unique because it's set in the arctic. Viaduct is pretty nice looking, sure, but it's really just "alpine snow edition", much like how Sawmill was "alpine rain edition". Glacier still has a ton unique about it because it's...a glacier! Now you can use all their materials in place of anything that'd be redundant to keep, like snowy alpine trees, the snow texture, etc. and cut down on your filesize.

I don't think you should give up on this because there's still a lot going for it on its own. I'm sure it's been hard working on your own snow materials and all that, I don't mean to downplay the effort that went into this, but having official materials to add into your own unique ones can only do good to a map, if you ask me.
 
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evanonline

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Dohohoh, hey, look, a shoutout from Valve got thrown in!

Viaduct is also the first Team Fortress map to take place during a snowfall (not counting Acegikmo’s awesome cp_glacier map, or for that matter all the other community mappers who manage to think up and execute on all the cool stuff before we even think of it)

Looks like they're readin'.
 

Nineaxis

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Valve's having a nice time with post-release edits. And they gave you a shout-out. Be happy.

I still think their snow texture set pales in comparison to your's. Aurora is one of the most beautiful maps for TF2 in my opinion, and Glacier is a great map as well.
 

Forthex

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The latest post remind me of the opening credits for Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

"Those responsible have been sacked".
 

Tinker

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Bloody hell, while I love glacier, there was no need to be all pedantic about the update. You know they meant "first official" ice map and there are loads of people who've never played a snow-themed game.

Then again we got a hilarious blog update for it so hey.
 

x14u2cx

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Mar 23, 2009
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Don't worry about valve making the same theme, yours is much better and more detailed than theirs. I love this map and how it plays but my favorite thing would be the ship beached at B, i cant think of anything that could make it better other than maybe the swamp theme no swimming signs near the water that kills you.
 
Jan 31, 2008
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So here's what I've got so far:

cp_glacier_rc20007.jpg

cp_glacier_rc20009.jpg


Thoughts?
 

pitto

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Feb 17, 2009
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I think the changes are making it look better, hopefully this will be in the next official update. I got it played at a lan I went 2 and everyone liked it
 

evanonline

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I think these changes look pretty nice, actually!

However, as redundant as it may be I think it'd be cool if you kept your more detailed snow. There are some things that you can definitely hold out on and use Valve's materials for instead, but that doesn't mean ALL your hard work should go to waste.