Never test with bots. Ever. Only use them to see if spawn points/other logic works, but don't use them for gameplay purposes.wicked man, thanks for that, will check this all out now , I have really wanted to test with humans (not AI)
Short story: bots are extremely dumb. Long story. bots are extremely duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb. They never use flanking routes. They don't rocket/sticky jump. They all glue together on a cart/control point. Engineers never move that gear up (neither do pub Engineers but you don't test maps on Valve server pubs).
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That's because it's in everybody's game already, in the hl2 folder.damn, it is sky_day_01_01, i thought it was a tf2 skybox, pakrat never asked to add it to the pack so always thought it was a tf2 map, well, you live you learn!