TF2maps presents: The Pacific Pack!

[Ælement]

it's cool

will there be multiple skins?

 

[Beetle]

it's cool

will there be multiple skins?

I don't see why not. Could make the same variety of colors as the umbrella model has

 

[Ravidge]

Give me like 2 days and I'll have these ready. They need textures, lods and collisions done.
I repeat: these textures are temporary.

probably have 3-4 skins for the leaves with various colortones, I'll try to work in a non-awful alpha in there too.

 

[Beetle]

I guess I should throw in some variation on my leaves...

 

[Crash]

Give me like 2 days and I'll have these ready. They need textures, lods and collisions done.
I repeat: these textures are temporary.

probably have 3-4 skins for the leaves with various colortones, I'll try to work in a non-awful alpha in there too.

How are you planning on handling the collision? Are these going to be something we can get away with putting in the primary play spaces or should they be left for detail areas?

 

[henke37]

Non solid leafs and solid trunks I'd guess.

 

[Batandy]

Does this count as a summer item?

 

[Beetle]

Any suggestions on fixing the alpha so it doesn't have a white line around it?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=154031174

Hopefully you can see what i mean

edit: this is a little better, I guess.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=154035175

Could it be because it's all planes and the engine doesn't like models that are that thin or something?

 

[Freyja]

Try using $alphatest in the vmt instead of $transparent

 

[Beetle]

Try using $alphatest in the vmt instead of $transparent

I do use $alphatest because I read that $nocull doesn't work (or is buggy) with $translucent
also, it's more noticeable the further away you get, and when you are right up against it, it's near perfect.

I tried blurring the alpha channel a bit around the edges and that seemed to help a little bit. Maybe I should make the edges of the leaves semi-transparent in the diffuse texture?

 

[Harribo]

I do use $alphatest because I read that $nocull doesn't work (or is buggy) with $translucent
also, it's more noticeable the further away you get, and when you are right up against it, it's near perfect.

I tried blurring the alpha channel a bit around the edges and that seemed to help a little bit. Maybe I should make the edges of the leaves semi-transparent in the diffuse texture?

IIRC using $nocull doubles the amount of polys the engine has to render for the model making rather a performance hit

 

[Beetle]

IIRC using $nocull doubles the amount of polys the engine has to render for the model making rather a performance hit

Well it's a model completely made of simple planes that need both sides to show because they are leaves.

also, the only reason I know what nocull is is because certain swamp props have the command in their vmts.

 

[Freyja]

also, it's more noticeable the further away you get, and when you are right up against it, it's near perfect.

That defiantly sounds like a mipmap issue then. When exporting your texture into vtf form, try selecting a sharpening filter of "none"

 

[Beetle]

Well I might just be nitpicking. Tell me...

These are with what Aly suggested:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=154304989 - close up
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=154305016 - far away

secondly if someone could direct me towards a tutorial (or just tell me) about adding multiple skins to a model or just bump me in the right direction, I'd be very thankful.

Thanks

 

[fubarFX]

you just add this to your qc

$texturegroup skinfamilies
{
	{ "skin" }
	{ "skinalt1" }
	{ "skinalt2" }
}

"skin" is the vmt your model is already pointing to, "skinalt1" and "skinalt2" are your alternate vmts

 

[Beetle]

you just add this to your qc

$texturegroup skinfamilies
{
	{ "skin" }
	{ "skinalt1" }
	{ "skinalt2" }
}

"skin" is the vmt your model is already pointing to, "skinalt1" and "skinalt2" are your alternate vmts

Stupid assumption, but I assume each of those vmts that's being pointed at needs its own vtf?

edit: nevermind, that's beyond stupid. sorry ><

 

[henke37]

Of course not, a vmf doesn't need any vtf files at all. Sure, it could use one, but they are optional if you can stand shader only generated textures. Such as a solid color. Does the source engine even have anything other than that?

 

[fubarFX]

or all vmts could point toward the same vtf. but your vmts have different $color parameters

bottom line: you can do pretty much whatever you want. source magic!
but yeah, in most cases you will want different vmts that point toward different vtfs

 

[Beetle]

Thanks for the help everyone.
They're all the same size, coming up below the knee.
http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?p=287787#post287787

 

[Ravidge]

Palm trees are done: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=21311

I have no ingame images because I'm lazy. But I promise they're lovely