TF2Maps.net Mapping Contest #7: Payload (Dynamic element)

[Ravidge]

Although it being my first time, I'll try entering this contest.
One interesting but rarely played PL map came to mind.

Remember pl_waste? It's the one where the cart can be pushed by either team. Does this count as dynamic element?

Edit: Nevermind, that would be tug-of-war, haha.

Yes we remember (all 5 releases of it), and no it's not allowed in this contest.
BRB adding it to the faq section.

 

[DaBeatzProject]

*i'mbackbitches*

 

[Tekku]

*i'mbackbitches*

/me sabotages DABP's Hammer

 

[Sergis]

building the building of buildings

 

[Jimmy]

I am entering! In otherwords GUESS WHO'S ALSO BACK?

 

[YM]

Good luck.

I'll be over here, not making a pl map.

 

[Okrag]

inb4 the return of An Icy Mouse

 

[tyler]

I guess no one cares that I returned for this too :[

 

[Fruity Snacks]

I guess no one cares that I returned for this too :[

No one thought you were gone, just angry at the world... or out occupying something

 

[Seba]

2012 Year of the Crane

 

[Tekku]

I guess no one cares that I returned for this too :[

Who are you?

 

[YM]

inb4 the return of An Icy Mouse

aha...............no

 

[Tom Hoen]

I too returned but I have always been kinda background occupier. Wondering if I'm going to make plr_hightower kind of map or just pl_

 

[[O]]

Ok so 2 questions:

1- continuing of Frozens question: can we have CPs away from the track that open gates / switch tracks / boost speed?

Ravidge answered by saying that those CPs have to be on the track itself?? Did I understand that right?

I hope I'm wrong, especially in the case of a CP that changes the track direction. What if we'd like to make that changing of tracks an optional reward and not mandatory? Doesnt that actually enforce the fact that PL is the focus?

2- Do payloads rollback due to gravity by default? i.e. is it possible to not have it rollback when on a slope?

 

[DaBeatzProject]

Ok so 2 questions:

1- continuing of Frozens question: can we have CPs away from the track that open gates / switch tracks / boost speed?

Ravidge answered by saying that those CPs have to be on the track itself?? Did I understand that right?

I hope I'm wrong, especially in the case of a CP that changes the track direction. What if we'd like to make that changing of tracks an optional reward and not mandatory? Doesnt that actually enforce the fact that PL is the focus?

2- Do payloads rollback due to gravity by default? i.e. is it possible to not have it rollback when on a slope?

I can answer your second question by saying that it's all in the entity system you make. You decide what happens where. So rollback is never default.

 

[YM]

Ok so 2 questions:

1- continuing of Frozens question: can we have CPs away from the track that open gates / switch tracks / boost speed?

Ravidge answered by saying that those CPs have to be on the track itself?? Did I understand that right?

I hope I'm wrong, especially in the case of a CP that changes the track direction. What if we'd like to make that changing of tracks an optional reward and not mandatory? Doesnt that actually enforce the fact that PL is the focus?

2- Do payloads rollback due to gravity by default? i.e. is it possible to not have it rollback when on a slope?

2 - no that is not set up by default. take a look at boojum's entity prefab to see how it works.

 

[Fruity Snacks]

I think it was decided that if you use a control point (like from Koth, or 5CP) as part of some hybrid gametype, you would be taking a very big risk with the contest, and should only do that unless you know what you are doing.


and for #2 see what DaBP and YM said.

 

[Bloodhound]

1.
I think you mean the CP´s for a human and Ravidge mean the CP´s for the payload.
But anyway:

I don't know how many times I've typed this out: Don't make fancypants custom gamemodes, that is not the purpose or intention of the competition.
"Dynamic element" is something smaller than a complete edit of the fundamental pl_badwater/plr_hightower style payload logic.

CP´s on the track (which get capped as soon as the payload reached it) can of course trigger events like doors.

2.
No, you have to say hammer what is a rollback zone and what not.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/TF2/Creating_Rollback/Rollforward_zones_for_payload_maps

Edit: I was typing to slow...

 

[Ravidge]

Ok so 2 questions:

1- continuing of Frozens question: can we have CPs away from the track that open gates / switch tracks / boost speed?

Ravidge answered by saying that those CPs have to be on the track itself?? Did I understand that right?

I hope I'm wrong, especially in the case of a CP that changes the track direction. What if we'd like to make that changing of tracks an optional reward and not mandatory? Doesnt that actually enforce the fact that PL is the focus?

2- Do payloads rollback due to gravity by default? i.e. is it possible to not have it rollback when on a slope?

1)

Q: Can I have a hybrid gamemode in my contest entry.
A: No. It needs to be a payload map, like the ones we're all familiar with.
However, your dynamic elements may include scenarios where something similar to another gamemode is present. For example: standing in a remote location instead of next to the cart, to move it (cp mechanic). Bringing something to or from the cart to progress (ctf mechanic).
It's important that these scenarios remain as short elements of a PL map and not as a replacement for the normal PL rule set.

So the answer is yes, you can use a normal cp for doing something funky. If you are still unsure, you would have to PM me on these forums or on IRC/steam with a detailed explanation of what you're proposing.

2) already been answered by other people.

 

[Dragonic]

I'm confused about the meaning of this following rule:

• Custom content is allowed, All publicly released content will not count towards collaboration, more than 'a few' from a single modeler specifically for your map will, the first 'few' wont be. This will be enforced on a case by case basis.
  
  "Publicly released content" means content that is available for download and use by anyone, at least one month before the submission deadline.​

So by this rule, can I or can I not used theme packs such as Construction, Swamp and Bullet Crops?

P.S. My forums posts still say that my Steam Community profile is still not set up yet. It's been a while...