TF2Maps Mafia
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Icarus
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...or get the mafia after you
You'll be damned if you do, damned if you don't.
The whole point is trying to read each other, or put the suspicion onto others.
It'd be more fun if this was done in person, but the internet can still work.
This is only week one. The fun hasn't even started.
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Numerous
L4: Comfortable Member
- Oct 14, 2009
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Vote: NerdBoy.
What were you expecting?
Also, I'm just wondering, do the traitors actually know who the other traitors are? I assume if that was the case, you'd have PM'd them. If this is modelled after TTT, I'm not sure (I haven't played it much) but if it was modelled after Mafia, they would. Please clarify, or failing that, inform me of my idiotic blindness and indicate where I missed your clear statement of this particular situation.
(hey, can't say I'm open to the possibilities)
Also also, what's our actual plan for working out who is an actual mafia member? Let's face it, if we choose to randomly vote someone out, there's a majority chance that the person voted out is a townsman. Theoretically, I could have an ulterior motive if i was trying to save icarus, as I theoretically knew he was a mafia (assuming the above, and also assuming I'm a mafia member, which I'm not, although thats what a mafia member would say) but the reality is that we should try to find a strategy to make every lynch count.
So what are we gonna do? Please provide REASONING behind each statement, because to be honest, that's the best way to limit mafia activity.
What were you expecting?
Also, I'm just wondering, do the traitors actually know who the other traitors are? I assume if that was the case, you'd have PM'd them. If this is modelled after TTT, I'm not sure (I haven't played it much) but if it was modelled after Mafia, they would. Please clarify, or failing that, inform me of my idiotic blindness and indicate where I missed your clear statement of this particular situation.
(hey, can't say I'm open to the possibilities)
Also also, what's our actual plan for working out who is an actual mafia member? Let's face it, if we choose to randomly vote someone out, there's a majority chance that the person voted out is a townsman. Theoretically, I could have an ulterior motive if i was trying to save icarus, as I theoretically knew he was a mafia (assuming the above, and also assuming I'm a mafia member, which I'm not, although thats what a mafia member would say) but the reality is that we should try to find a strategy to make every lynch count.
So what are we gonna do? Please provide REASONING behind each statement, because to be honest, that's the best way to limit mafia activity.
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Numerous
L4: Comfortable Member
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Aly, what do you mean? Do you mean you told the other mafia who each other mafia member is? Or do you mean they'll talk to eachother and work it out? Because I doubt that'd be easy for them, considering that if they hinted to the wrong right person (ie a vanilla townsperson) and that person figured it out, BAM! easy lynch when said person records proof and posts it here.
Also, it just occurred to me that we could blow this system so hard the thread will start showing cracks, if we were to just take screenshots of the original PM indicating what we are and post them here, or to forward it to someone.
I'm assuming it won't be allowed, but if they ARE then I intend to post mine COMMITTING COMPLETELY AND IRREVOCABLY HERE to show I'm an innocent.
It just occurred to me that we have a forward button, but we don't have any way to stop 2 people both forwarding their statuses to eachother without them knowing, although there would be a MASSIVE risk if the mafias tried to do that, considering that innocents showing that they're definitely innocent to a mafia isn't much help anyways. So basically, we win if we're allowed to forward those PMs.
EDIT: WAIT NVM ABOUT THE FORWARDING PMS it's in the rules. Although it says "quote" so TECHNICALLY there's nothing against forwarding em or taking screenshots..
Also, it just occurred to me that we could blow this system so hard the thread will start showing cracks, if we were to just take screenshots of the original PM indicating what we are and post them here, or to forward it to someone.
I'm assuming it won't be allowed, but if they ARE then I intend to post mine COMMITTING COMPLETELY AND IRREVOCABLY HERE to show I'm an innocent.
It just occurred to me that we have a forward button, but we don't have any way to stop 2 people both forwarding their statuses to eachother without them knowing, although there would be a MASSIVE risk if the mafias tried to do that, considering that innocents showing that they're definitely innocent to a mafia isn't much help anyways. So basically, we win if we're allowed to forward those PMs.
EDIT: WAIT NVM ABOUT THE FORWARDING PMS it's in the rules. Although it says "quote" so TECHNICALLY there's nothing against forwarding em or taking screenshots..
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I'm pretty sure "quote" is used in the traditional sense, rather then stringently referring to
Draser
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ok, so let me get this straight (for, hopefully, the next time you guys play this and im in it ) The Thread Poster is the moderator, and the guy who randomly decides who is what.
You can be:
A. A mafia Member
B. A townsperson.
C. The Inspector.
Once the game is filled with people, the moderator sends a PM to everyone, telling everyone what he/she is. He also keeps record as to who is what, so near the end of the game, he can tell how many mafia/townspeople there are.
Ok. and that was just prep work.
Now for the actual game play.
First Day:
Everyone votes using the "Vote: (player)/Unvote: (Player)" syntax.
Once there is a vote where everyone nominates one person, or whoever has the most votes at the end of the week, that person is killed/kicked outa town. Before they are officially killed though, they get one final statement. Once they are dead/kicked outa town: This disables them from making any more comments regarding who/what they were, or their speculations on who anybody else is.
First night:
This part is a little fuzzy for me: Do the mafia members start a new thread? Or Do they chat in steam? Or do they msg each other through tf2maps?
Any way they do it, it doesn't really matter as long as they get privacy from the townspeople.
So they chat, and figure out who to "kill" from the remaining people.
(After the first night, all the mafia members know who are mafia, and who are not, however, they do NOT know which person is the inspector.)
Once they Are done discussing who to kill (they have 48 hours to do so,) one of the mafia sends a PM to the Moderator, telling him/her who they killed.
Then the Moderator sends a PM to the Inspector, telling the inspector he's ready for his assessment of the situation. (Basically the inspector get one guess per night as to who is a mafia member, and the moderator tells him yes or no. thats it.)
Day 2-whenever
Chat a bunch on who to kick out/kill. The inspector now knows at least one person who is/isn't a Mafia Member. He can tell everyone that he is the inspector, thus pretty much guaranteeing that the inspector is chosen next to die. (Might want to wait until you are sure there aren't any more mafia members before telling them this.)
Did i get all that correct? Or did i mess something up?
) The Thread Poster is the moderator, and the guy who randomly decides who is what.You can be:
A. A mafia Member
B. A townsperson.
C. The Inspector.
Once the game is filled with people, the moderator sends a PM to everyone, telling everyone what he/she is. He also keeps record as to who is what, so near the end of the game, he can tell how many mafia/townspeople there are.
Ok. and that was just prep work.
Now for the actual game play.
First Day:
Everyone votes using the "Vote: (player)/Unvote: (Player)" syntax.
Once there is a vote where everyone nominates one person, or whoever has the most votes at the end of the week, that person is killed/kicked outa town. Before they are officially killed though, they get one final statement. Once they are dead/kicked outa town: This disables them from making any more comments regarding who/what they were, or their speculations on who anybody else is.
First night:
This part is a little fuzzy for me: Do the mafia members start a new thread? Or Do they chat in steam? Or do they msg each other through tf2maps?
Any way they do it, it doesn't really matter as long as they get privacy from the townspeople.
So they chat, and figure out who to "kill" from the remaining people.
(After the first night, all the mafia members know who are mafia, and who are not, however, they do NOT know which person is the inspector.)
Once they Are done discussing who to kill (they have 48 hours to do so,) one of the mafia sends a PM to the Moderator, telling him/her who they killed.
Then the Moderator sends a PM to the Inspector, telling the inspector he's ready for his assessment of the situation. (Basically the inspector get one guess per night as to who is a mafia member, and the moderator tells him yes or no. thats it.)
Day 2-whenever
Chat a bunch on who to kick out/kill. The inspector now knows at least one person who is/isn't a Mafia Member. He can tell everyone that he is the inspector, thus pretty much guaranteeing that the inspector is chosen next to die. (Might want to wait until you are sure there aren't any more mafia members before telling them this.)
Did i get all that correct? Or did i mess something up?
sniprpenguin
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- Mar 14, 2008
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The moderator knows all, and if competent, nothing goes wrong, draser.
And could we stop with the spamclutter and continue with the actual game? I think there's still one or two people who are in that haven't even voted yet.
And, to defend myself, I want to speed this up because I don't want it taking 2 months, Rikka. If I was better at convincing people, I'd totally vote against you for your accusation that I may be mafia. I'm as clean as a urinal in the ladies' restroom!
And could we stop with the spamclutter and continue with the actual game? I think there's still one or two people who are in that haven't even voted yet.
And, to defend myself, I want to speed this up because I don't want it taking 2 months, Rikka. If I was better at convincing people, I'd totally vote against you for your accusation that I may be mafia. I'm as clean as a urinal in the ladies' restroom!
That is correct. Daytime ends at roughly Thursday, 10AM GMT..ish.
Numerous, the idea is you shouldn't do that. The premise of the game is to exercise your deduction and mystery-solving skills. You can say what your role IS, and what it entails, but not exactly the same wording as the PM or a screenshots. Just type it yourself.
The mafia know who they each are and can communicate. I'd think they'd do it via steam as it's fastest, but they can do it however they want.
Numerous, the idea is you shouldn't do that. The premise of the game is to exercise your deduction and mystery-solving skills. You can say what your role IS, and what it entails, but not exactly the same wording as the PM or a screenshots. Just type it yourself.
The mafia know who they each are and can communicate. I'd think they'd do it via steam as it's fastest, but they can do it however they want.
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Rikka
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- Feb 10, 2009
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An important aspect being skipped out on here is interrogating people. Which is being ignored in favor of the "I just want the day to go fast" excuse sniprpenquin is using.
And really, "I'd vote you except no one will believe me?" My god you're scummy.
And really, "I'd vote you except no one will believe me?" My god you're scummy.
