Propaganda contest Runners up announced

[Terr]

Aptly put. Yes, there you go, Boojum, at least I didn't swipe the original poster scan from the internet and then past over parts of it.

P.S.: Anybody know what poster this winner was supposed to be? The closest I can find is this and from the Spanish civil war.

 

[A Boojum Snark]

...You think I don't already know they are mimics?
My point is straight up screenshots are damn ugly and far from "best effort" at authenticity or much anything. If you look at all the runnerups there are only TWO that are raw screenshots. Best use of Garry's Mod (category specifically for such) and the one-pixel-contraction one (crappy lets-have-a-laugh mention).

 

[Terr]

...You think I don't already know they are mimics?

Well, the way you were carrying on... yes.

It seems to me what you really care about is the art style (drawn vs. using the game's 3D assets) which was never specified by Valve, and you're starting to blur that with "originality and time spent" when it comes to how you deliver your put-downs.

The whole contest was about mimicry of two different things: TF2 and WWII. However, it's beyond mimicry to start with the original WWII poster and then paste over three small sketches and a single word of text. (Resulting in a slogan that doesn't even make sense for TF2.) I'd wager I spent the same if not more actual time into mine than that guy, even if you don't like the deliberate "in-game" art direction.

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Re: "Straight-up screenshots" and "Raw screenshots":

If they really look like they came straight from the game then is that a compliment? Except from the background none of it is from in-game, and I do not own Garry's Mod. Everything else is generally posed and composited manually from the face poser, model editor, and particle editor. (Hence the lack of antialiasing options.) You try doing the same thing and you'll discover the places I had to go in with Photoshop to fix glitches nobody notices when they're actually playing.

I stand with what I said before and even when the contest was announced: Valve didn't specify enough about what they were looking for. Ex: "Does it have to be something you can put on a T-shirt?"

 

[Leminnes]

Spanish Civil War was "World War II Era" as stipulated by the category. And besides, that poster is beautiful. The original and the recreation.

And not the WHOLE contest was supposed to revolve around WWII. No where on the actual contest page does it say that. They just say propaganda, and that goes much farther back then WWII.

 

[Terr]

I know when the Spanish Civil War was and yes, it's the correct era. I'm just pointing it out because without that knowledge it was a bit hard to find on teh googles using the otherwise-expected keywords.

 

[eyefork]

I actually liked the "demoman rides in the empty seat" poster. I wasn't trying to say anything negative about it

 

[Leminnes]

I know when the Spanish Civil War was and yes, it's the correct era. I'm just pointing it out because without that knowledge it was a bit hard to find on teh googles using the otherwise-expected keywords.

I'm honestly just confused. Every single non-joke poster, to me, is fantastic and wonderfully made. I'm not going to make any comment about your own poster, but they seemed wonderful to me and complaining about that aspect just seems a little conceited. Especially when your making it out to seem that you expected to win or something. And even if you didn't, I still don't see what you're complaining about.

 

[Terr]

Hey, originally all I said was that I was disappointed, which I think seems like a pretty innocuous statement. Lots of people probably are. And I wished the rules/scope/style of the contest given by Valve were tighter.

I've got no real problem with the "Demoman rides..." winner itself. (With the possible exception of a wasted opportunity for a really funny motto.)

What bugs me is that my submission is being bashed for reasons which apply the-same-or-more to a winner of the contest in the same category I was--in retrospect--shooting for. If I'm going to get lambasted for "slapping stuff on" then why does one of the winners who actually does it literally get a pass?

 

[Nineaxis]

We all got one modest pile of hat. Wonderful prize.

Terr, just stop being silly.

 

[Terr]

Says the fiery rubber-ducky man

 

[Leminnes]

If I'm going to get lambasted for "slapping stuff on" then why does one of the winners who actually does it literally get a pass?

I don't see any poster, except for joke ones, that took a screenshot and put some text on. Perhaps matching the literal graphical style of a poster they were inspired by, but that still takes far more work and skill.

 

[Thingy Person]

Terr, I thought your poster was uncreative, not pleasing to the eye and failed to capture the funny of the original poster. That would've been fine if you hadn't shat bridges over it.

You don't deserve to be mentioned just because there were entries that required lest effort. Truth is, they had balls, and made Valve laugh. Blame yourself for working on a concept that isn't worth the trouble. Or never enter a similar contest again if you were so hung up with Valve not specifying their tastes. 'Effort' is not a measurable virtue.

The whole war thing would've been so much better if there hadn't been srs businessmen dictating who deserves what. You even made Mexican Apple Thief feel guilty.

 

[gamemaster1996]

Chill the fact is he won and that's that.

And is it just a few of us or is valve really screwing us with the past couple of update i mean what on earth is this:

Update News - Team Fortress 2
Latest Update: February 12, 2010
[-]February 12, 2010 - Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:

Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source


Fixed a case of client-side hitching caused by writing a file to the hard drive too frequently




[-]February 8, 2010 - Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:

Team Fortress 2


Fixed Polish Team Fortress 2 fonts not being displayed correctly in the Main Menu

They must be preparing something big soon.

EDIT: Sorry to change the subject but some of you seem to be getting aggrivated and o.t.t.

 

[nik]

Chill the fact is he won and that's that.

And is it just a few of us or is valve really screwing us with the past couple of update i mean what on earth is this:



They must be preparing something big soon.

EDIT: Sorry to change the subject but some of you seem to be getting aggrivated and o.t.t.

this was to fix the game sending info to a file during game too much, which was discussed on the forums very much, if you read them it wouldn't seem to be very strange :|

 

[Terr]

Laughing: The car man, the car. And most of the people. Modified screenshots from the model poser are worse than direct pastes from google image search?

Thingy Person: I do not need to defend myself against your nonsensical post given how it demonstrates you haven't read the thread. (Or have me conflated with someone else.) While it would represent and incredible opportunity to science and the study of causality, I'm afraid my posts on page 8 do not cause people to write that they feel bad on page 2.

 

[Thingy Person]

I'm afraid my posts on page 8 do not cause people to write that they feel bad on page 2.

I was talking about the attitude in general, most of all Youme's. The "You don't have the right to talk if you haven't made an effort" remark means, to me, that he regrets making a submission at all just because he didn't win a prize.

But yes, I did read the whole thread, I just mentioned you because you were the last one in the thread still talking about it. I hate it when people talk as if "effort" is a quantitative principle that has to be rewarded based solely on that.

Because, hack job or not, the car pic was still more interesting to me than yours.

 

[Leminnes]

Laughing: The car man, the car. And most of the people. Modified screenshots from the model poser are worse than direct pastes from google image search?

Yes. Except they're not "direct pastes from google image search."

 

[HellJumper]

I haven't been on TF2 in a while. Since when was the contest up?

 

[Terr]

Yes. Except they're not "direct pastes from google image search."

In that example, it was their entire background layer.

Forget "was that good or bad", I'm just saying some folks are advancing a double-standard. I suppose if I had used Inkscape to vectorize everything people wouldn't have cared.

 

[Leminnes]

In that example, it was their entire background layer.

Forget "was that good or bad", I'm just saying some folks are advancing a double-standard. I suppose if I had used Inkscape to vectorize everything people wouldn't have cared.

I am unaware of what example you speak of.

Also, if you HAD used Inkscape to vectorize it obviously would've taken more work to make it and most likely had been more impressive.

You make it seem as though there is a clear-cut set of rules judging goes by. Did it take a lot of work? Does it look good? Is it creatively done? Is it generally impressive? Did it make us laugh? Etc. Any variety of these questions might've been asked and any of them could've answered with "yes" or "no" and the person could still win.