Longest sightlines in maps

[Skylark]

Calculated by finding the longest kill by a sniper in each map - this does not give a definitive longest sightline but it gives the longest sightline which has been used.

Maps (which have enough data)

ctf_turbine..............5'395
ctf_2fort                4'017
cp_dustbowl              4'603
plr_hightower            3'813
pl_badwater..............3'288
koth_harvest_final       3'584
cp_foundry               5'563
koth_nucleus             3'996
cp_snowplow_rc3..........4'016
pl_upward                4'696
plr_hightower_event     13'284
cp_egypt_final           3'767
pl_barnblitz.............3'665
pl_thundermountain       4'217
pl_goldrush              4'928
pl_frontier_final        3'430
ctf_doublecross..........3'413
cp_process_final         3'535
cp_badlands              2'981
cp_gullywash_final1      2'825
koth_harvest_event.......3'286
cp_granary               4'025
cp_snakewater_final1     2'782
cp_gravelpit             4'307
pl_hoodoo_final..........4'296
arena_offblast_final     3'166
koth_lakeside_final      5'517
koth_viaduct             3'327
koth_sawmill.............2'611
koth_viaduct_event       2'721
cp_coldfront             3'338
cp_steel                 3'470
cp_gorge.................4'337
tc_hydro                 2'865

Averages (median)

KOTH 3327
CTF  4017
CP   3767
PL   4217

Data source: heatmaps.tf
Source code: pastebin
Google Docs: spreadsheet


Edit: more realistic usable sightlines - not the longest, but the easiest used

ctf_turbine.............3'969
ctf_2fort               3'101
cp_dustbowl             3'093
plr_hightower           3'459
pl_badwater.............3'104
koth_harvest_final      3'313
cp_foundry              3'615
koth_nucleus            2'992
cp_snowplow_rc3.........3'586
pl_upward               4'194
plr_hightower_event     7'340
cp_egypt_final          3'370
pl_barnblitz............3'521
pl_thundermountain      4'197
pl_goldrush             3'923
pl_frontier_final       3'265
ctf_doublecross.........3'125
cp_process_final        3'504
cp_badlands             2'822
cp_gullyish_final1      2'668
koth_harvest_event......3'109
cp_granary              2'712
cp_snakewater_final1    2'718
cp_gravelpit            3'837
pl_hoodoo_final.........3'360
arena_offblast_final    2'726
koth_lakeside_final     3'595
koth_viaduct            2'700
koth_sawmill............2'485
koth_viaduct_event      2'513
cp_coldfront            2'749
cp_steel                2'269
cp_gorge................2'903
tc_hydro                2'705
                        
pl_shoreleave_a6........2'829
koth_trainsawlaser_rc2  3'082
ctf_haarp               2'668
cp_glassworks_rc6a      2'391

Conclusion: sightlines of 3000 and lower are fine, as long as there is a route which bypasses all or the majority of the sightline

 

[RevolutionTeam]

plr_hightower_event 13'284

Hold the fuck up.

 

[Skylark]

Hold the fuck up.

In here

 

[RevolutionTeam]

God damn! That's an awful sightline...

But nobody would ever exploit it... right?

 

[Truckojr]

Don't give anyone any ideas.

 

[nᵗʰSonata]

It's pretty much impossible to exploit, because you only get to that area after the round ends, when it's a straight up deathmatch

 

[RevolutionTeam]

because you only get to that area after the round ends

That's what I meant. You'd have to be going for the AFK spy to actually get a kill from there.

 

[Skylark]

I did some maths to try and find more realistic sightlines which people have used and have these results; these are not the longest but at least a few people have used this distance.

ctf_turbine.............3'969
ctf_2fort               3'101
cp_dustbowl             3'093
plr_hightower           3'459
pl_badwater.............3'104
koth_harvest_final      3'313
cp_foundry              3'615
koth_nucleus            2'992
cp_snowplow_rc3.........3'586
pl_upward               4'194
plr_hightower_event     7'340
cp_egypt_final          3'370
pl_barnblitz............3'521
pl_thundermountain      4'197
pl_goldrush             3'923
pl_frontier_final       3'265
ctf_doublecross.........3'125
cp_process_final        3'504
cp_badlands             2'822
cp_gullyish_final1      2'668
koth_harvest_event......3'109
cp_granary              2'712
cp_snakewater_final1    2'718
cp_gravelpit            3'837
pl_hoodoo_final.........3'360
arena_offblast_final    2'726
koth_lakeside_final     3'595
koth_viaduct            2'700
koth_sawmill............2'485
koth_viaduct_event      2'513
cp_coldfront            2'749
cp_steel                2'269
cp_gorge................2'903
tc_hydro                2'705
                    
pl_shoreleave_a6........2'829
koth_trainsawlaser_rc2  3'082
ctf_haarp               2'668
cp_glassworks_rc6a      2'391

So yeah, longest sightline being around 3'000 seems pretty decent.

Also, these values have been added to the google docs

 

[Finianb1]

I found an insane one on koth_suijin!

I don't think this will ever be useful, but I actually have a casual clip I recorded today.

View: https://youtu.be/cRJkQosK0hI

 

[Malachite Man]

Suijin is pretty much sightline Nirvana.

 

[RevolutionTeam]

Not knocking Freyja's work, but the first in-game version had a spawn-to-spawn sightline across the point, and honestly... how did that not get removed in the early alpha builds?

 

[Wilson]

Because it was never meant to be a King of the Hill map.

 

[RevolutionTeam]

Even then, you don't see Arena maps like Badlands, Ravine, and Well having cross-map sightlines.

 

[Tumby]

Even then, you don't see Arena maps like Badlands, Ravine, and Well having cross-map sightlines.

Badlands and Well are not good arena maps. Doesn't change your point much, but I just had to say this.