Discussion in 'Team Fortress 2 Talk' started by tf2.com, Nov 2, 2011.
Waa waa waa we give free stuff away and people take it waa
Seriously people, just play the goddamned game.
sorry that typo was really bugging me
People didn't get completely aesthetic items. So what.
If someone being exploited had one ounce of common sense they would leave the server and find another server.
Maybe if they had more common sense they wouldn't bother with limited-use aesthetic items and would play TF2 not HF2.
You're entitled to your own opinion, I don't care, but just because you're 13 doesn't mean you have to act that age online.
Well if you think about it, the situation goes the other way too. If those items were so worthless, then why were there server admins who decided to go to extreme measures to obtain them? So much so that Valve had to make a blog post about it?
1. Person joins server
2. Person waits 2 minutes for gifts to spawn
3. Gift spawns
4. Admin takes it
5. Person has to disconnect and find a new server
6. Admin stole 3 minutes of person's time
"Hey, you're not allowed to have fun! Stop liking what I don't like!"
I've got a few protips for you.
1. Calm the fuck down.
2. Respect others' opinions
3. Don't get mad because someone has a different opinion.
4. Don't make meaningless age insults.
5. Calm the fuck down.
well, in valve's philosophy, gifts are supposed to create value for your player base. if you're taking all the gifts with noclip, mass slays and other stupid plug-ins, you are being a dick to your player base and you're taking away from the value of your server to satisfy your own greed. what I'm saying is you're hurting yourself, not valve. and valve doesn't want you to hurt yourself because you're hurting the community as well.
valve is giving you free value for your server to help driving in traffic an you're just taking all of this value for yourself. valve only wanted to make a better community by increasing the value of each server.
sure it's your server but you're being disrespectful toward valve, and yourself. these admins should be ashamed
(altho I will admit the gift system is shit)
edit: I thanked verumae for his long post because no matter how long the post, he still failed to bring a contribution to this discussion. and that genuinely made me laugh. keep trying son
I am glad that disclaimer is there fubar because I was worried you'd lost it.
Quite frankly the report a person tool was neccesary.
How many companies put this much humour into their "You keep cheating, now we're stopping you and will punish you" posts?
Bread for pigeons: confirmed weapon.
You guys should be happy TF2M has had the admins that it has had over the years. It's depressing how many communities have really shitty admins.
My argument was never entirely against valve (although I find it hard to agree with some past decisions), most of what I said is directed towards the playerbase that constantly find ways to work "the system" and get hats and whatever. I suppose this is just me, as a player who joined the game when there was only one hat for each class; it was a cool and neat thing to have one but for the most part no one really cared, core gameplay was the big interest of players. As the game progressed through updates it got crazier and aesthetics became more entwined with that TF2 was. Nowadays gameplay modifications and balancing rarely happens while adding an aesthetic item is commonplace. I don't mind if people find hat fortress 2 fun, that perfectly fine with me, but I personally would rather play good ol' TF2. Maybe I'm just bitter that the cool, unique TF2 that I once knew still exists albeit under a pile of hats.
Oh for fucks sake lets not have this same fucking conversation again.
We should have "Rant about TF2" thread so we don't have to do this bullshit here.
yeah we don't need that conversation because everyone knows it's true by now
Surprise tf2 has turned into a game where people are obsessed about collecting virtual items, and people will behave without regard for the fun and feelings of others, if it means they get a better chance at getting items.
This has happened in every past update where it's been possible, and really shouldn't surprise anyone now.
I don't really understand why every time someone expresses an opinion on the state of tf2 that you don't explicitly share you stick your fingers in your ears and start screaming because you don't want to hear. If you want to do that fine, but do you really need to post about it every time despite it bringing nothing to the thread?
It's because you guys are fucking annoying and phrase everything like you want a fight (which you succeed in doing every time) and I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who is pretty damn tired of reading it in every update thread and others beside.
We get it! Go away.
Posting facts is comparable to fight picking?
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