Flame Sentry

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Terwonick, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. Terwonick

    Terwonick L6: Sharp Member

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    alright, so I've been thinking about this for all of 20 seconds, and I think it would be cool if a sentry spurted flames instead of bullets, it would have similar stat's to this:

    Pros:

    -Flames
    -more damage the closer you are
    -burns enemies
    25% more health than a regular sentry

    Cons:

    -Short-Range
    -burn is about 1/2 as long as pyro burn time
    -50% of the ammo of a regular sentry
    -maybe doesn't upgrade at all/to lv3?

    tell me what you think
     
  2. Penguin

    aa Penguin Clinically Diagnosed with Small Mapper's Syndrome

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    you don't need any nerfs. a short range sentry is really useless..
     
  3. Loc_n_lol

    Loc_n_lol L10: Glamorous Member

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    Probably useless. As it stands the pyro is considered underpowered notably because of his short range and low damage, but he kinda makes up for it with some mobility. If you completely remove that mobility and cut down on the damage even further what good remains ?

    Maybe the sentry should just spin around firing a continuous stream of fire to spycheck ? :p

    No seriously, I don't think that can be a good idea no matter how you twist it. :)
     
  4. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    semi-backwards imo. has decent DPS, with short, crippling range, with the most limited mobility out of all 9 classes (excluding heavy, but he has longer range, and 3x more DPS).

    i really like this idea :D SUPER POWERED BUFFED FLARE GUN. flare gun just doesn't do it for me :/

    ONTOPIC:
    i think a sentry that just shot rockets would be cool. would be better against demo's, soldiers, and the heavier classes (spies i guess), but scouts would stand a chance yay.
     
  5. Numerous

    Numerous L4: Comfortable Member

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    Personally, I like the idea of a flame-sentry as described above, but that follows around the sentry on spider-legs. maybe have it fire flamethrower and flares.. (flares fire like twice as fast)

    Not sure what it would achieve, but it'd be fun, that's for sure.

    (maybe have a dispenser with spiderlegs too!)
     
  6. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    I woulda done it like this:

    Pros:

    -Flames
    -more damage the closer you are
    -burns enemies
    -hits multiple players at once
    -burn is about twice as long as pyro burn time (reduces effectiveness of corner spam)

    Cons:

    -limited range
    -No push back
    -No secondary fire
    -flames have travel time so sentry is easily circle-strafed by faster classes attacking from close corners. (IE pyros)
    -zappers deal 20% more DPS due to volatile fluids.
    -(Not compatable with wrangler?)
    -(explodes on death indescriminately dealing low-moderate damage/setting people on fire?)

    stats:

    -level 1: 150% range of normal flamethrower
    -level 2: 200% range of normal flamethrower
    -level 1: 250% range of normal flamethrower

    This way the flame thrower SG is more of a support weapon than area denial. demoralises players, confusing them, making it more difficult for spies, makes shooting from a corner less effective unless out ranged. Significantly more dangerous for spies to zap.
     
  7. honorum646

    honorum646 L6: Sharp Member

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    It's like a portable spy check!

    I prefer grazr version for the range. It reminds me of the perdition turret.

    Maybe it could have some sort of disguise to keep it hidden in an engi base.
     
  8. MangyCarface

    aa MangyCarface Mapper

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    These stack a little too well with the wrangler... complete corner denial
     
  9. Pooluke41

    Pooluke41 L5: Dapper Member

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    make them non wranglerable
     
  10. Seba

    aa Seba DR. BIG FUCKER, PHD

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    Considering the randomness of the current FT, I'd say keep it at ~175% max.
     
  11. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    FT for bots is more stable, so i don't see why it wouldn't be the same for SG's.
     
  12. Terwonick

    Terwonick L6: Sharp Member

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    I would use the FTSG as an ambush weapon not a legit area-denial weapon.

    after seeing feedback, here's what I would do

    Pros:

    -Flames
    -more damage the closer you are
    -burns enemies
    -hits multiple players at once
    -burn is about twice as long as pyro burn time (reduces effectiveness of corner spam)

    Cons:

    -limited range
    -No push back
    -No secondary fire
    -flames have travel time so sentry is easily circle-strafed by faster classes attacking from close corners. (IE pyros)
    -zappers deal 20% more DPS due to volatile fluids.
    -no lv 3

    that seems fair to me. it keeps people using the regular/mini-sentry(s), and doesn't render the pyro useless
     
  13. Loc_n_lol

    Loc_n_lol L10: Glamorous Member

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    After bleeding, expect pyros everywhere to insult you if you propose to give the engineer another better afterburn. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Terwonick

    Terwonick L6: Sharp Member

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    How about with 1/2 the damage as a pyro burn
     
  15. honorum646

    honorum646 L6: Sharp Member

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    That's like... almost nothing.

    Why not reduce the damage to something a bit more feasible instead of completely eliminating the damage.
     
  16. TMP

    aa TMP Abuser of Site Rules

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    Flame Sentry:

    Shoots scattergun shots randomly, when it kills someone, it types "raped fgt" into chat.
     
  17. Grim Tuesday

    aa Grim Tuesday

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    Prestige sentry:

    Jumps like crazy. Misses like crazy. When kills appear, autotypes "lol raped with ease" or one of 8 other predetermined obnoxious things.
     
  18. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    those binds are bad.

    bind i "Say sometime wen i play i pretend to be in frag vido xD this week i am carnage jameson meetshot :D"

    BEST BIND EVER
     
  19. Terwonick

    Terwonick L6: Sharp Member

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    lets see, we have these kill comments so far:

    raped fgt
    lol raped with ease
    Say sometime wen i play i pretend to be in frag vido xD this week i am carnage jamesone meetshot

    any more?
     
  20. REEJ

    REEJ L7: Fancy Member

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    it's a fun idea, but don't think many engies would use it for longer than just try out, overpowered lvl3 sentry with wrangler = that's how pubs roll