Flame Sentry

Terwonick

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Aug 25, 2010
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alright, so I've been thinking about this for all of 20 seconds, and I think it would be cool if a sentry spurted flames instead of bullets, it would have similar stat's to this:

Pros:

-Flames
-more damage the closer you are
-burns enemies
25% more health than a regular sentry

Cons:

-Short-Range
-burn is about 1/2 as long as pyro burn time
-50% of the ammo of a regular sentry
-maybe doesn't upgrade at all/to lv3?

tell me what you think
 

Penguin

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you don't need any nerfs. a short range sentry is really useless..
 
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Probably useless. As it stands the pyro is considered underpowered notably because of his short range and low damage, but he kinda makes up for it with some mobility. If you completely remove that mobility and cut down on the damage even further what good remains ?

Maybe the sentry should just spin around firing a continuous stream of fire to spycheck ? :p

No seriously, I don't think that can be a good idea no matter how you twist it. :)
 
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As it stands the pyro is considered underpowered notably because of his short range and low damage, but he kinda makes up for it with some mobility.

semi-backwards imo. has decent DPS, with short, crippling range, with the most limited mobility out of all 9 classes (excluding heavy, but he has longer range, and 3x more DPS).

i really like this idea :D SUPER POWERED BUFFED FLARE GUN. flare gun just doesn't do it for me :/

ONTOPIC:
i think a sentry that just shot rockets would be cool. would be better against demo's, soldiers, and the heavier classes (spies i guess), but scouts would stand a chance yay.
 

Numerous

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Personally, I like the idea of a flame-sentry as described above, but that follows around the sentry on spider-legs. maybe have it fire flamethrower and flares.. (flares fire like twice as fast)

Not sure what it would achieve, but it'd be fun, that's for sure.

(maybe have a dispenser with spiderlegs too!)
 

grazr

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I woulda done it like this:

Pros:

-Flames
-more damage the closer you are
-burns enemies
-hits multiple players at once
-burn is about twice as long as pyro burn time (reduces effectiveness of corner spam)

Cons:

-limited range
-No push back
-No secondary fire
-flames have travel time so sentry is easily circle-strafed by faster classes attacking from close corners. (IE pyros)
-zappers deal 20% more DPS due to volatile fluids.
-(Not compatable with wrangler?)
-(explodes on death indescriminately dealing low-moderate damage/setting people on fire?)

stats:

-level 1: 150% range of normal flamethrower
-level 2: 200% range of normal flamethrower
-level 1: 250% range of normal flamethrower

This way the flame thrower SG is more of a support weapon than area denial. demoralises players, confusing them, making it more difficult for spies, makes shooting from a corner less effective unless out ranged. Significantly more dangerous for spies to zap.
 

honorum646

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Oct 9, 2009
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It's like a portable spy check!

I prefer grazr version for the range. It reminds me of the perdition turret.

Maybe it could have some sort of disguise to keep it hidden in an engi base.
 

Seba

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-level 1: 150% range of normal flamethrower
-level 2: 200% range of normal flamethrower
-level 1: 250% range of normal flamethrower

Considering the randomness of the current FT, I'd say keep it at ~175% max.
 

Terwonick

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Aug 25, 2010
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I woulda done it like this:

Pros:

-Flames
-more damage the closer you are
-burns enemies
-hits multiple players at once
-burn is about twice as long as pyro burn time (reduces effectiveness of corner spam)

Cons:

-limited range
-No push back
-No secondary fire
-flames have travel time so sentry is easily circle-strafed by faster classes attacking from close corners. (IE pyros)
-zappers deal 20% more DPS due to volatile fluids.
-(Not compatable with wrangler?)
-(explodes on death indescriminately dealing low-moderate damage/setting people on fire?)

stats:

-level 1: 150% range of normal flamethrower
-level 2: 200% range of normal flamethrower
-level 1: 250% range of normal flamethrower

This way the flame thrower SG is more of a support weapon than area denial. demoralises players, confusing them, making it more difficult for spies, makes shooting from a corner less effective unless out ranged. Significantly more dangerous for spies to zap.

I would use the FTSG as an ambush weapon not a legit area-denial weapon.

after seeing feedback, here's what I would do

Pros:

-Flames
-more damage the closer you are
-burns enemies
-hits multiple players at once
-burn is about twice as long as pyro burn time (reduces effectiveness of corner spam)

Cons:

-limited range
-No push back
-No secondary fire
-flames have travel time so sentry is easily circle-strafed by faster classes attacking from close corners. (IE pyros)
-zappers deal 20% more DPS due to volatile fluids.
-no lv 3

that seems fair to me. it keeps people using the regular/mini-sentry(s), and doesn't render the pyro useless
 

TMP

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Flame Sentry:

Shoots scattergun shots randomly, when it kills someone, it types "raped fgt" into chat.
 
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Prestige sentry:

Jumps like crazy. Misses like crazy. When kills appear, autotypes "lol raped with ease" or one of 8 other predetermined obnoxious things.
 
Mar 23, 2010
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Prestige sentry:

Jumps like crazy. Misses like crazy. When kills appear, autotypes "lol raped with ease" or one of 8 other predetermined obnoxious things.

those binds are bad.

bind i "Say sometime wen i play i pretend to be in frag vido xD this week i am carnage jameson meetshot :D"

BEST BIND EVER
 

Terwonick

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Aug 25, 2010
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lets see, we have these kill comments so far:

raped fgt
lol raped with ease
Say sometime wen i play i pretend to be in frag vido xD this week i am carnage jamesone meetshot

any more?
 

REEJ

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Aug 26, 2010
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it's a fun idea, but don't think many engies would use it for longer than just try out, overpowered lvl3 sentry with wrangler = that's how pubs roll