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[grazr]

I'm getting some weird bug with the dirt path overlays where after an arbitrary amount of time they go black. I dunno whether this is just my card being a spak, but running mat_reloadallmaterials i can replicate the bug on demand... kinda annoying at the moment.

I thought it was the low environment lighting not giving stuff a good helping of stable lighting but they are fine on map load...

 

[The Political Gamer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/grazr/artpass_valvebaseb40025.jpg

That crane type thing looks really meh. I mean are you planning to make it something else other then a block?

 

[grazr]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/grazr/artpass_valvebaseb40025.jpg

That crane type thing looks really meh. I mean are you planning to make it something else other then a block?

Yes. I'm not really touching skybox/outter bounds details until i've got the playable area looking nice.

 

[honeymustard]

I usually get that bug after I've built cubemaps - it doesn't appear otherwise though. Loading a different map, then the original map fixes it for me.

 

[Huckle]

This might be a minor thing but I'm really not happy with your skybox light. It looks like it's perfectly straight across the x axis, giving you a lot of pretty weird-looking shadows. If you look at the shadows from the roofs on your first screenshot, they go all the way across the structure, making perfectly angular shadows. Since the only other surface flat enough to get those structures are the blue spawn building, just keeping track of those areas might be enough.

You don't have to make any drastic changes but I think shifting the sunlight just a few degrees (or just remaking that area) would help out a bit. Of course this is also something nobody playing the map would really think about.

 

[grazr]

The sun is at 15 degrees and the shadows are at 25. It is kinda noticable but i was hoping most players wouldn't notice. Any lower and the map isn't well lit, but if the sun is any higher then it wouldn't be morning, nor be appropriate to have morning fog.

I'll try and make the difference more subtle though.

edit: Or did you mean horizontally?

 

[Huckle]

Directions are hard in 3D, let's say it's directly to the right of image#1 in the center of the skybox (top of the "up" window). If the sun was closer to the camera the shadows would end before they reached the brown structure in the middle and if it was further in, the walls of the house wouldn't be lit up.

Using more houses to extend the occluder wall into 3d would also help to break up the shadows, it's not like changing the sun is the only solution.

 

[Goombac]

Looking nice. Although the tree in the distance with the grain and the power lines looks too huge.

 

[Jetti]

On the first of the new shots, theres this really tall, thin building which looks incredibly un-natural. What possible purpose could it serve?

 

[grazr]

On the first of the new shots, theres this really tall, thin building which looks incredibly un-natural. What possible purpose could it serve?

I was considering putting a grain shoot in it that is visible at the base, but it's no less natural than the "central" granary buildings, or badlands buildings beyond the bases. Granted it is thinner than most.

To be honest i feel kinda bad uploading these map updates and just going "yea, that's gonna change, i have plans not in effect yet". You guys seem to be picking into the WIP and not the existing details, so maybe that's a good thing...

@ Huckle, i have no issues moving the sun horizontally, as long as the sun is seen 'birthing' over the corn. My main concern at the moment is that the suns (env_sun) brightness is quite bright and i can't seem to find a way of reducing it without upping the colour contrast in the same process.

 

[Jetti]

That ladder looks kinda flimsy, so I propose you replace it with this:

 

[grazr]

 

[Draco18s]

I'm a little worried about seeing this as a possible path and encountering an invisible wall.

 

[FeartheMango]

There's a fence there...

 

[grazr]

I just havn't filled that tiny bit in the corner with planks yet... the screenshot was supposed to be showing the grain shoot in the background that people were complaining about looking incomplete/shit.

I'm still deciding what to do in that area. IE whether to put dirt tracks to imply vehicle access or not, or fill it with "junk" props etc. which will tell me how to implement the surrounding fencing.

 

[honeymustard]

I like what you did with the building over the gate to A (that closes). That looks nice and should work well with optimisation.

 

[Draco18s]

There's a fence there...

Ah, you're right. I couldn't see the chicken wire.

 

[grazr]

blog

 

[grazr]

Continuing into the base-final point with spytech. trying to keep style consistency with 2fort.

If you'd like to help me out with some custom modelling: please see model/custom explosion request:
http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?p=190258#post190258

 

[PlipPlop]

Looks great.