regardless, i still am voting for loc's map, because it's still fun to play. the concept is solid, the execution is pretty decent too. the issue with thebridge isn't gamebreaking, and whilst the new layout looks superior, i don't think that the maps overall enjoyment factor would be dramatically changed by it. edit: also to shed some light on how the versions prob got mixed up, i think it's because it takes a while for the server to update or something after you upload a map here. i had the same problem with mine when i uploaded a test version, found something broken, and re-uploaded with the same name. when it got uploaded to the tf2 servers thuogh the old broken version was the one that ended up there. in future, if you have only 10 or less minutes left, make a new submission when you upload + change the name of the map to be extra certain. regarding the map pack, i think most (if not all) people testing on the tf2maps servers have been DLing direct from in the game, as the maps aren't that huge, and it's simply just more convenient to let tf2 DL and place the map in the maps directory for you.