[wip] Ctf_spit
- Thread starter Bonafide
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R3dRuM
L6: Sharp Member
- Feb 13, 2008
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Map looks good except for a few hl2 textures here and there and:
- The "3d Skybox" needs to be more 3d, the whole skybox is just a waste of resources, way too much detail to intake and way too much more than needed. TBH, in game it doesnt look as good as it is all cracked up to be, sorta makes you wonder why the big Pit is there and why there are fences around it (original).
- The FPS is absolutely HORRIBLE, i suppose there is absolutely NO OPTIMIZATION on this map because of the lag, i dropped of an average of 80% fps (compared to 2fort)
- The main lobby room ish thing looks really bad, expecially the stairs (not the ladder) the stairs are way to high way too fast and make no sense what so ever and have no astetic appeal.
-As you may know, all the hl2 textures look awful
-You need to optimise...
-You need to optimise...
-You need to optimise...
-Give it a better theme
-More playerclipping on everything
-Fix the grate / paths / walkways should not have seams that connect them, use nodraw to hide the texture inside.
- The "3d Skybox" needs to be more 3d, the whole skybox is just a waste of resources, way too much detail to intake and way too much more than needed. TBH, in game it doesnt look as good as it is all cracked up to be, sorta makes you wonder why the big Pit is there and why there are fences around it (original).
- The FPS is absolutely HORRIBLE, i suppose there is absolutely NO OPTIMIZATION on this map because of the lag, i dropped of an average of 80% fps (compared to 2fort)
- The main lobby room ish thing looks really bad, expecially the stairs (not the ladder) the stairs are way to high way too fast and make no sense what so ever and have no astetic appeal.
-As you may know, all the hl2 textures look awful
-You need to optimise...
-You need to optimise...
-You need to optimise...
-Give it a better theme
-More playerclipping on everything
-Fix the grate / paths / walkways should not have seams that connect them, use nodraw to hide the texture inside.
I am thinking of getting around to making a B2 of this after loosing total interest.
I will fix all the bugs I know of. broken doors, ground to far away, too much water in the sewers, lifts, ladders, stairs, etc. These I dont need to know about. (Ive actually fixed all the bugs that didnt need major geometry changes already.)
I want to change the bases. I think they are way too simple and it was a major gripe of mine after releasing it. I would like some help with ideas of what to do to the bases to make it more interesting. But I dont want to make it over complicated. If you want to you can chat to me on steam about it.
Also I need someone to convert a map from QWTF to work in hammer. I tried to follow the tutorial but couldnt get my head around it. If you can do it tell me on steam or a PM.
I will fix all the bugs I know of. broken doors, ground to far away, too much water in the sewers, lifts, ladders, stairs, etc. These I dont need to know about. (Ive actually fixed all the bugs that didnt need major geometry changes already.)
I want to change the bases. I think they are way too simple and it was a major gripe of mine after releasing it. I would like some help with ideas of what to do to the bases to make it more interesting. But I dont want to make it over complicated. If you want to you can chat to me on steam about it.
Also I need someone to convert a map from QWTF to work in hammer. I tried to follow the tutorial but couldnt get my head around it. If you can do it tell me on steam or a PM.
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Well after making some deathmatch maps I thought I would give this another shot. So far I have done hours and hours of "behind the scenes" work tidying up this map.
I have done most of Chronos suggestions and many others that I heard during test playing and other feedback. I have fixed the lighting so the map shouldnt make your eyeballs explode into flames.
I have some screenshots of the visible work so far. This is all without Vis and Rad because it takes a long time to fully compile this map.
First off I am adding a middle water works system. The same as "Well". This was supposed to be in the first version but I just had to get feedback so I released it without it.
Go in here:
Come out here:
This gives the general Idea of direction:
The ladder in the main room is gone. Replaced by a ramp and a sliding door. Only operable from the ramp side, so it works just as part of the catwalk when not opened.
I have raised the entire sewer system so you no longer need to swim through it. I also intend to add a little area similar to the area in the sewers of 2fort in the middle of the run.
This is a very early WIP of the exit of the new sewer. Which I started a little while ago.
This is probably everything I will be doing before B2 unless people have good suggestions on what needs to be changed.
If you do have suggestions or comments you think I havent seen. Feel free to put them in this thread so I can do it before release.
Thanks.
I have done most of Chronos suggestions and many others that I heard during test playing and other feedback. I have fixed the lighting so the map shouldnt make your eyeballs explode into flames.
I have some screenshots of the visible work so far. This is all without Vis and Rad because it takes a long time to fully compile this map.
First off I am adding a middle water works system. The same as "Well". This was supposed to be in the first version but I just had to get feedback so I released it without it.
Go in here:
Come out here:
This gives the general Idea of direction:
The ladder in the main room is gone. Replaced by a ramp and a sliding door. Only operable from the ramp side, so it works just as part of the catwalk when not opened.
I have raised the entire sewer system so you no longer need to swim through it. I also intend to add a little area similar to the area in the sewers of 2fort in the middle of the run.
This is a very early WIP of the exit of the new sewer. Which I started a little while ago.
This is probably everything I will be doing before B2 unless people have good suggestions on what needs to be changed.
If you do have suggestions or comments you think I havent seen. Feel free to put them in this thread so I can do it before release.
Thanks.
ChronoTriggerFan
L420: High Member
- Feb 3, 2008
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Please, I beg of you, get rid of that nasty HL2 texture from the floor in the last pic, and any other instances of HL2 textures.
have you optimized this map? made proper use of func_detail, func_brush etc?
I think you mean if it has HL2 textures oxy. If that is the case then I would advise you to take all tf2 stock maps off your server since valve themselves use hl2 textures.
BreadHeadFred said:
They are both Tf2 textures and I have used them but in this particular instance neither a white tiled floor or a laminated tile floor suits what I am looking for.
Laz said:
Whats func_detail? Ha, I joke. Of course I have
B2 would be finished if i could fix this lighting problem... Its all sewn and is all the correct size, its all "treated as one" . Im not sure wtf is wrong but its annoying me.
I am thinking of releasing it even with the weird lighting. Its only a B2 after all and I want some play time and feedback on it. A weirdly lit surface aint exactly a big deal.
Released a renamed version called ctf_malice_v1
You can download it here. Try to keep feedback in this thread. If you host this map please hit me up on steam to come and play it.
http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=3585
You can download it here. Try to keep feedback in this thread. If you host this map please hit me up on steam to come and play it.
http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=3585
Nevermind, errors came to light, I will post it tomorrow.
Have you tried youme's lighting parameters to see if that fixes this?
I can see what's happening, but the fact that it's all alligned is puzzling. The only thing i can think is to whack a standard light entity in the middle of that "scene" in the hopes that it lights up most of those faces as equally as possible, hiding the lighting issues with the spotlights.
Though the models of the lights point in a specific direction, doesn't mean the light spot entity has to follow exactly. Try facing a few of the spotlights more towards the displacements and see if that improves anything.
I've seen this with a lot of valve lights, the light spots point quite off from the direction of the light source prop. (to cover local walls).
I can see what's happening, but the fact that it's all alligned is puzzling. The only thing i can think is to whack a standard light entity in the middle of that "scene" in the hopes that it lights up most of those faces as equally as possible, hiding the lighting issues with the spotlights.
Though the models of the lights point in a specific direction, doesn't mean the light spot entity has to follow exactly. Try facing a few of the spotlights more towards the displacements and see if that improves anything.
I've seen this with a lot of valve lights, the light spots point quite off from the direction of the light source prop. (to cover local walls).
MacNetron
L5: Dapper Member
- Dec 12, 2007
- 203
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Bonafide, we are discussing at the cross-post at coltsplayground ([Release] CTF_MALICE_V1) when it will be tomorrow
Any progress yet? I recall some good games on ctf_spit, so an updated version would be nice to playtest.
Unbelievable but this map actually crashes when there too many people on it. I have to work on reducing some stuff. This version, again, is trashed.