Water Trouble!

[Twist.vmf]

so i just finished watching captain america civil war and the scene with the underwater bass gave me an idea for a map in an underwater bass! but i can't get the water to look as if you are under water, either you can't tell it's water, or you can't see it! so i need help

 

[Erk]

First up, screenshots help us see what you see, so please use the PrtSc button and ctrl-v into paint.

Secondly, I believe your water is leaking. This could be caused by a hole in your map, or perhaps the water isn't lower than the containers height.

Waterlod also has made me have this problem before.

Oh, and you can't have two water entities at two different heights. Engine problems.

 

[Davekillerish]

Look at how this map created the effect of being underwater:
https://tf2maps.net/downloads/abyss.1265/
@Blade x64

 

[Twist.vmf]

v2

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.vmf"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Sep 6 2016)
2 threads
materialPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\materials
Loading C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_tf2_04 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_tf2_04 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_tf2_04 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_tf2_04 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (6373 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 15 texinfos to 8
Reduced 7 texdatas to 6 (163 bytes to 117)
Writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.bsp
Wrote ZIP buffer, estimated size 434, actual size 354
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** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Sep 6 2016)
2 threads
reading c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.bsp
reading c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.prt
30 portalclusters
63 numportals
BasePortalVis: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
PortalFlow: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Optimized: 0 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 552
Average clusters visible: 18
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 30
visdatasize:484 compressed from 480
writing c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.bsp
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Sep 6 2016)

Valve Radiosity Simulator
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
unknown light specifier type - lights

[56 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (0.00 seconds)
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0 Displacements
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91 patches before subdivision
759 patches after subdivision
1 direct lights
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Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

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Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 222
Writing c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.bsp
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** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest2.bsp" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\maps\whatertest2.bsp"





v1

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.vmf"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Sep 6 2016)
2 threads
materialPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\materials
Loading C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_tf2_04 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_tf2_04 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_tf2_04 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_tf2_04 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (6359 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 14 texinfos to 7
Reduced 6 texdatas to 5 (144 bytes to 99)
Writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.bsp
Wrote ZIP buffer, estimated size 432, actual size 352
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Sep 6 2016)
2 threads
reading c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.bsp
reading c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.prt
24 portalclusters
47 numportals
BasePortalVis: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
PortalFlow: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Optimized: 0 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 340
Average clusters visible: 14
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 24
visdatasize:340 compressed from 384
writing c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.bsp
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Sep 6 2016)

Valve Radiosity Simulator
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
unknown light specifier type - lights

[56 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (0.00 seconds)
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0 Displacements
0 Square Feet [0.00 Square Inches]
95 patches before subdivision
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1 direct lights
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BuildVisLeafs: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
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transfer lists: 0.1 megs
GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
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Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0002 sec>
FinalLightFace: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
FinalLightFace Done
0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ThreadComputeLeafAmbient: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

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Total triangle count: 248
Writing c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\team fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.bsp
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\whatertest.bsp" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\maps\whatertest.bsp"

v1

v2

this should be enough

 

[Blade x64]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/WiseWaterGlass

In short, you only 'see' water by looking through the top plane of the water, not the sides. To make it look like water from the sides, you'll have to employ a variety of tricks to make it look like it's underwater.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarium

Look at all the pretty pictures of aquariums to figure out what makes underwater look underwater.

 

[The Letter Before A]

Mmmmm
What about underwater trouts
Maybe that would work better