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teddyruxpin

Sr. Hygiene Technician
Mar 24, 2008
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Wow you guys really need to get off your high horses and cut the guy a break. Not everyone has experience or insight to make a correct map to YOUR specs. Creating hostility between 2 groups such as TF2Maps and FPS does no one any good and only makes people like myself loose respect for this group.

-Teddy
 

Hawk

L7: Fancy Member
Dec 3, 2007
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Not everyone has experience or insight to make a correct map to YOUR specs.

I don't see this as a case of the author not being good enough. It's more of a case of the author not trying. I really think he should have just kept the level among his close friends, because it sounds like he was fully unwilling to take a feedback after putting his map on a site designed to gather feedback. It isn't the right place for his mapping jokes.
 

Owlruler

L12: Fabulous Member
Dec 10, 2008
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If you read the description, it says:
"this is the first version of my soon to be popular map"
That made my day.
 

laghlagh

L6: Sharp Member
Jul 15, 2008
389
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Yeah anyone who really knows who they are and what they do hates them too.

microsoft sam + poorly animated characters someone else designed
Fun that you'd mention it, what the average Newgrounds preteen seems to love is things like this, made almost entirely with sprites not made by the author.
+ terrible storylines and bad timing (in the vast majority of CC stuff)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/259252
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/332454
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/454086
Groups like the CC are a plague on newgrounds in much the same way the braindead FPSB user is on FPSB.
The braindead FPSB user is the one who upvotes hentai naruto porn on NG, the exact person the Clockcrew is trolling. They do respect good artists, http://clockcrew.cc/talk/portal.php

notice how new good animation movies are posted on the frontpage. Not the trolling webpage with flashing banners you'd imagine, eh?
 

grazr

Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle
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Mar 4, 2008
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Wow you guys really need to get off your high horses and cut the guy a break. Not everyone has experience or insight to make a correct map to YOUR specs. Creating hostility between 2 groups such as TF2Maps and FPS does no one any good and only makes people like myself loose respect for this group.

-Teddy

I'm not aware of any hostility between the groups, but the more professional level designer's here frown upon the frequent childish behaviour that happens over at FPSB, behaviour that is usually revolving around the vote system and ends up in petty fighting, spamming each other's profiles and revenge voting. Maps put up are of consistantly low quality and the majority of which are surf, aim, box, orange, "fun" maps, or "my first map" maps. The type of maps that destroy the reputation of the custom mapping scene. For the most part the older/wiser members generally ignore what happens over there and only pop their head in when publicity on release is necassery.

If VGUI boxes is all that people get to see then the chances of anyone taking level design seriously is greatly deminished. So i'm not suprised people get worked up about it when they put so much effert in.

This is only another example of how a 'box map' has tainted the custom content scene, irrespective of a joke or not. A scene that is so valueble here because of TF2's relative new-ness to other games, especially HL2 Deathmatch. TF2maps generally has a more mature attitude because real feedback is consistantly given and the lack of a map voting system reduces trolling and the level design resources attract a crowd willing to learn. Whilst FPSB attracts a totally different crowd.

This is not the first time and probably not the last that a low quality map will cause a ruckus between people of differing opinions.