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Scorched (CTF/KOTH/ARENA)

Discussion in 'Map Factory' started by Yokai, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. Yokai

    Yokai L1: Registered

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    Scorched (CTF/KOTH/ARENA) *FINAL UPDATE"

    Hey everybody! Long time no see eh? Well, the truth is that I've been rather busy recently with both the process of finishing school work and also continuing my adventures learning Zbrush and Max to better my fluency. Also, I've been doing some painting practice here and there while also thinking about expanding a bit of my knowledge in the animation department (still learning the basics.) I am also pretty close to finishing my Japanese studies here at university! Honestly, I can't wait to be finished and delve full force into game development and the plethora of other fields whence I leave university.

    I've been so focused on learning other stuff, however, that I forgot that I never uploaded this updated version of my map for just about a year now which added a few new models here and there. I also tweaked some of the gameplay elements and added more cover to various locations of the map. This version is also much more optimized, the map should run smoothly on any computer that is capable of running TF2. I only realized after I was cleaning up my portfolio folder on my computer that I never actually "released" this version of scorched, so I'm putting it out there again so that there's no chance of it being lost. (My computer has been kind of acting up as of late.)




    Thanks everyone! And again, long time no see. :lol:
     
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  2. Penguin

    aa Penguin Clinically Diagnosed with Small Mapper's Syndrome

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    Oh dang.

    Looking sexy.
     
  3. Fredrik

    Fredrik L6: Sharp Member

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  4. Okrag

    aa Okrag Wall Staples

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    Can't say I like the pixelated images on the computers. Doesn't really feel tf2 to me.
     
  5. royalkiller

    royalkiller L1: Registered

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    Hawt and Smexy! I can't wait playing this on a server, but I have to agree with Okrag . The Pixel-Things on the Computers kill the Immersion :/ .
     
  6. Yokai

    Yokai L1: Registered

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    I'm sorry to hear that, if the over all consensus is such though I'll probably change the text style for the next release. I was a fan though. ):
     
  7. Gonfin

    Gonfin L2: Junior Member

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    looks good,
    i especally like your lava texture, and soundscape for it


    also,
    you have a bunch of static props with no v-physics model (they spit out error messages in the console)
    and this:
     
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  8. Yokai

    Yokai L1: Registered

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    Any other comments about the gameplay? I need to get some tests done on this map D:<

    Also, the particle effect error is something I'm not sure if I can fix. If anyone knows how to do it, please let me know! X3
     
  9. Ian_Suffix

    Ian_Suffix L1: Registered

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    Sorry about the cold welcome at TheVille. The customs server has actually been pretty dead for months, now, ever since the regulars kept hanging around the rotation servers and the Warpath2 server. There's just so many normal maps to compete with, you know?

    CON: I can't tell you about the gameplay seeing as the right people weren't actually watching the TV2 server's thread, but I can tell you one thing right away. SNIPERS. I hate Snipers (being a consistent Medic), and the middle of this map just reeks of them. My only recommendation would be shielding the middle area.

    PRO: Now that I've got that off my chest, let me praise you for the obviously fine tuned detail here. It looks fantastic, and I was most impressed with how you had the lava set you on fire a split second before you died. May I also recommend you fill it with thin "invisible" brushes so that ragdolls appear to both sink slower and wiggle as the lava moves? While I'm at it, may I also ask how you set the player on fire?

    CON: I hate to sound like another nagging voice, but the pixelated monitors do bug me, and not just because they're pixelated. If they were CRT screens with animated refreshing, that would be one thing, but the black on color flat screens look entirely out of place.

    PRO: Layout was extremely easy to learn. I wasn't exactly sure what the point of the fork in the vents was since they convened into the same room, but I'm sure they'd come in handy somehow.

    CON: Lighting. There's a lot of contrast in lighting, and that kind of messes up the HDR. The middle area with the bright lava below and dark chains above makes it a bit harder to focus on the fight. As for indoors, when you're in a light area, you really can't see into a shadowy area. And being that there are plenty of shadowy areas, I'm afraid you're going to have to illuminate more.
     
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  10. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Yokai from Interlopers/HoldOut?
     
  11. Fireman

    Fireman L4: Comfortable Member

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    Hey, looking at your screenies I just realized I played this the other night on the cC servers, so here's some quick feedback based on what I remember.



    I love the lighting effects on mid, but there is one area that I found too dark, the behind the barriers on either side of the point (first screenshot, below the RED logo). Players were still visible, but it became a bit hard to distinguish team colors.

    Mid itself is very cool to look at, but unfortunately being so open it's rather prone to snipers. A better shot than I would've wrecked the other team as they came out of their vents. Add some more cover across the way for people to dart behind, and some on mid itself.

    Right now venturing onto the middle point is a bit of a death trap. In the few matches I played both teams basically played chicken until one had lost enough players that they were forced back into their base, at which point the winning team would run in and hunt them down. Once again adding cover should help fix this a bit, and encourage people to step forward onto mid earlier.
     
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  12. Yokai

    Yokai L1: Registered

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    Beta 2 Release:

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    Change Log
    
    Beta 1 => Beta 2 Change List:
    * Added railings to the central point. (The Volcanic Core)
    * Added playerclip to brushes to increase movement fluidity.
    * Added Patch decals to areas with healthkits / ammokits. 
    * Adjusted the lighting around the center point to increase brightness.
    * Added directional based signs to make pathways stand out more / make the layout more clear. 
    
    Please contact me if you have any complaints or questions about the map, and any criticism is always deeply appreciated. I will respond immediately! 
    As far as I know, snipers have a rather hard time in this map because of the multiple entrances / exits and the issue of having to deal with other snipers. In many ways, the map's layout is similar to mach4. I think I understand your point though, as for what I can do I am still thinking about it. I was, at one point, considering editing the windows and adding glass over one or two of them.

    Thanks, I am still trying to find a way to emulate falling through the lava. At one point, I was considering making it some sort of "water", but the ultimate result ended up making it so that the bodies would float on the lava... Which, really isn't a bad thing. IDK, I'll consider some changes to the lava mechanic.



    Some changes may be made on the monitors in future updates. I'll keep it in mind. I think one of my issues with the monitors right now is that they are not selfillum, which makes it looks too much like a flat texture on the display.

    The reasoning for the pixelated text and the black background was because it seemed exaggerated and un-realistic, which I felt was perfect of the TF2 aesthetic. However, I think people would rather like to see the TF2 style font, which is a bit of a disappointment for me, since I really wanted to stress this map as being apart of the TF2 universe, but also very stylistic in my own ways (rather than following all of valves design philosophies for TF2)

    The fork in the road in the vent allows spies to get around enemy players that may or may not be in the vents. I'm an avid spy player, so I designed the basic map layout and then tuned it for every class, and I was disappointed when I felt the class with the biggest issues was spy. After noticing that, I also added the lower pathways, with the railways going through them, which works very well for spies IMO. It also works well for scouts.

    In the end, the fork in the road was a decision based on playing maps like Turbine, where the vents often caused players to run into enemies and they have no real way of avoiding enemies or getting around them in the vent.

    I'm working on some lighting changes. The outside area's lighting was changed in the recent version to help players see other players. Indoor lighting may be changed in the future. I think I know the area in question too (the area under the walk way has always been kind of dark, but I always love a contrast in lighting so I kept it there. However, it's too strong of a contrast and caused gameplay related issues because of this. I'll work on this for beta 3


    Yes, though I was never apart of the HoldOut Modification... As far as I know. :)

    edit: Sorry, missed this post on page 2:

    More cover will be added. I'm unsure of how to prevent people from sniping mid, since right now there isn't enough room to add cover. I was thinking that I could add some more chains into the map, which conveniently block vision of the middle point from the sniping windows. I'll look into it and test some more things with cover. But there's definitely DEFINITELY going to be >more< cover between on the team specific ledges.

    I increased the lighting to generally make it more light around that area. Hopefully it's better now, as it looked fine for me. However, I must consider all monitors and monitor types to make sure that it isn't dark for one person but not dark for another.
     
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  13. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    No, but i was :p

    P.S. Welcome to TF2maps.net. Should have joined us a long time ago ;) TF2 is the bomb.

    You got this baby into a TF2maps playtest yet?
     
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  14. Yokai

    Yokai L1: Registered

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    Final Update Posted :
    Hey everybody! Long time no see eh? Well, the truth is that I've been rather busy recently with both the process of finishing school work and also continuing my adventures learning Zbrush and Max to better my fluency. Also, I've been doing some painting practice here and there while also thinking about expanding a bit of my knowledge in the animation department (still learning the basics.) I am also pretty close to finishing my Japanese studies here at university! Honestly, I can't wait to be finished and delve full force into game development and the plethora of other fields whence I leave university.

    I've been so focused on learning other stuff, however, that I forgot that I never uploaded this updated version of my map for just about a year now which added a few new models here and there. I also tweaked some of the gameplay elements and added more cover to various locations of the map. This version is also much more optimized, the map should run smoothly on any computer that is capable of running TF2. I only realized after I was cleaning up my portfolio folder on my computer that I never actually "released" this version of scorched, so I'm putting it out there again so that there's no chance of it being lost. (My computer has been kind of acting up as of late.)




    Thanks everyone! And again, long time no see. :lol: Youtube video coming up!
     
  15. Tekku

    aa Tekku

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