Destroyed

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Flame, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. Flame

    aa Flame

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    For anyone who missed the drama in the chat.

    bLackstar: 6:43 PM - XXXXX: Getting lots of chatlogs
    6:43 PM - XXXXX: Robin emailed DF his phone number to talk about it
    6:43 PM - XXXXX: DF used a script to craft at the exact time of a drop
    6:43 PM - XXXXX: He had the info due to a leak
    6:43 PM - XXXXX: That's all I know
    6:44 PM - XXXX XXX: heheheh
    6:44 PM - XXXX XXX: using external programs again DF?
    6:45 PM - XXXXX: He used a program that "uncrafted" metal before it could ping the steam cloud server. Thus creating infinate metal.
    6:45 PM - XXXX XXX: wow
    6:46 PM - XXXX XXX: are you on irc or somthing?
    6:46 PM - XXXXX: No, THEY are on irc
    6:46 PM - XXXX XXX: AH
    6:47 PM - XXXXX: Pretty much the only way it can be described
    6:55 PM - XXXXX: [18:53] <Nwks> Drunken_F00l: Is it possible to get the listing of the old times? Or will you post them somewhere? I'm just curious about the "timezone fairness".
    [18:53] <Drunken_F00l> Nwks: I am contemplating posting them
    6:55 PM - XXXXX: Shit just got real
    6:56 PM - XXXX XXX: oh man dont show me that..... if i do somehow get it, i dont want to be put under possibly being vac bannec
    7:03 PM - XXXX XXX: the next one should be out in 30 min to an hour
    7:04 PM - XXXXX: ugh, great
    7:04 PM - XXXX XXX: valve has been predictible on the 25,50 one
    7:04 PM - XXXX XXX: i knew it was timed to begin with
    7:11 PM - XXXX XXX: hmm anything new?
    7:13 PM - XXXXX: Just that Robin is pissed, F00l offered to rat out the leaker, and that he was caught crafted 7 times during the very minute of one of the drops
    7:13 PM - XXXX XXX: hmm
    7:13 PM - XXXX XXX: how is robin there too?
    7:13 PM - XXXX XXX: or is fool just saying what he is saying
    7:14 PM - XXXXX: Robin talked to him on the phone
    7:14 PM - XXXXX: Yes
    7:14 PM - XXXX XXX: ah
    7:15 PM - XXXX XXX: but dang robin talked to him in person tahts just as funny
    7:15 PM - XXXX XXX: or well over phone, but still

    and

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15906388&postcount=1900

    good to see the idiot got put in his place...

    discuss
     
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  2. Rexy

    aa Rexy The Kwisatz Haderach

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    I guess I can understand why they did it that way, but I'm a little nerfed that the drops weren't really random. That doesn't seem right to be lied to.
     
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  3. J4CK8

    J4CK8 L11: Posh Member

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    They were still random though, I mean the times they drop at are random times, it's not like on the hour every hour. If they were completely random like hats and weapons then Valve couldn't be sure that they would all be dropped in time for the engy update.

    Or we could have been waiting since tuesday for the update after all wrenches had dropped and all items/maps revealed.

    TBH I don't care if it's random or not, people still have the same chance to find one whether it is timed or completely random.
     
  4. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Too bad for DF, he's supported TF for a decade now so it's a shame that when Valve fuck up he gets punished for experimenting on that knowledge.

    Being banned for the script is understandable though.
     
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  5. Rexy

    aa Rexy The Kwisatz Haderach

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    Well I mean if I had known they were going to be spent at specific times, I would have had better chances crafting during those times instead of wasting the items during the times there weren't going to be any. If everyone is going to have an equal chance of getting one then it really needs to be really random.

    In any case it's just another example of some really interesting game propaganda gone down the shitter.
     
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  6. J4CK8

    J4CK8 L11: Posh Member

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    But if you knew they were gonna go at specific times, you wouldnt know WHAT the specific time was, therefore you'd still be crafting all day long.
     
  7. Grim Tuesday

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    I don't think VAC should be banned for exploits.
    If someone is hacking, aimbotting, whatever, then they deserve to be permabanned.

    However, if they are going to use it like a bb gun, shooting whomever they don't like, or who tricks the system, then that kinda ruins the point. Its there to stop people who gain an unfair advantage over others, not those who find an easier way to get a cosmetic item.
     
  8. Flame

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    did you read any of the first post.
     
  9. Penguin

    aa Penguin Clinically Diagnosed with Small Mapper's Syndrome

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    itt: Valve surgically removed DF's e-peen.
     
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  10. Rexy

    aa Rexy The Kwisatz Haderach

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    Yes. I read all of it.
     
  11. Leminnes

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    I dunno, a script to get infinite metal. That's basically cheating.


    I agree, really. I think taking advantage of a leak and "cheating" the system to get infinite metal is grounds for Wrench Removal and VAC Banning.
     
  12. littleedge

    aa littleedge L1111: Clipping Guru

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    I don't ever remember hearing Valve say "It's random"

    Because, you know, they didn't.
     
  13. Flame

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    not you rexy, grim, who said

    "However, if they are going to use it like a bb gun, shooting whomever they don't like, or who tricks the system, then that kinda ruins the point. Its there to stop people who gain an unfair advantage over others, not those who find an easier way to get a cosmetic item."

    he used an exploit in the code to uncraft and recraft medal despite the fact valve had specifically said they had disabled it, than used a script to craft 7 times in one minute during the minute he knew the wrench was going to drop during... thats not an "easier" way, thats flat out bullshit.
     
  14. DJive

    aa DJive Cake or Death?

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    wrong forum =p
     
  15. RogerTheDodger

    RogerTheDodger L1: Registered

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    Stop spreading misinformation. He was using the script before Valve stopped that blueprint working, then they obviously broke it by stopping that craft actually working. Additionally Drunken F00l never offered to tell Robin who had leaked the times.

    I always knew you were an egotistical moron. Thanks for making it crystal clear. Check your facts before posting stupid malicious shit.
     
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  16. Grim Tuesday

    aa Grim Tuesday

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    lol u mad bro?

    EDIT: Flame, although he did exploit the system, he did not give himself an advantage over over players in game. Therefore it is not haxing. However, the more appropriate thing to do would be to put an embargo on his drops forever.
     
  17. Prestige

    aa Prestige im not gay anymore

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    reverse thanks. :facepalm:
     
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  18. Leminnes

    aa Leminnes

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    And so it begins.

    Seriously, people. Anger management.
     
  19. Rexy

    aa Rexy The Kwisatz Haderach

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    Can we all not talk without resorting to trolling? Just discuss the topic, don't flame it.
     
  20. drp

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    imo, he cheated the system, he deserves to be banned.

    if anyone knows anything about 'random' when it comes to anything computer related, is that nothing is truly random.
     
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