[Contest Entry] pl_saloon

[Jazz]

Pl_Saloon​

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Well, my first version had to be scrapped because it crashed my game. Cry some more. But I did manage to come up with a new concept for the beginning area I had to let go of and plan to hold on to the old west style.

Here are some pics of the Blue spawn area. I thought it would be pretty cool to have a rock formation to ride down but I am not sure how I could add alternate routes to the top. I also managed to use that spiral rock prop from badlands! Not too shabby looking if you ask me.

http://no-moral.com/sdev/s1.png
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s2.png
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s3.png
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s4.png

Please leave me some feedback on what you think so far and check back every now and then to see what I'm up to!

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You can download the map here (Alpha 2):
http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=756

 

[nossie]

IMO i hate that rock.. its too "unnatural" if u wanna put it that way. otherwise i love that arch displacment u've done it looks great. i dont know about the routes up to the cart but you could maybe put a shack/hut at the part where the track turns? on the edge and maybe have a staircase going downwards to the lower floor? like going out the back

o well keep at it

 

[joshman]

I Think the rock looks fine, just make a platform of sorts on top of it, with a small prop, or two. You know how the CP was on it in badlands? Just that. But without the CP or the Metal Sniper Fences.

 

[laghlagh]

I am not sure about that rock prop, it does not look natural at all to me :/

 

[FaTony]

Good start. Go for it!

 

[Spike]

Is the saloon just a name or we will see a far west saloon?

 

[Apom]

I'm an absolute fan of your displacement arches. If you don't mind, I'd love to see the base brushes to have an idea of how you did it (I really suck at displacements, and yours are really inspiring, so I try to learn ).

 

[Jazz]

Thanks for the feedback everyone, I will try to have another update ready by tomorrow.

Is the saloon just a name or we will see a far west saloon?

I will try to go as far west salooney as possible while still trying to keep a tf2 feel.

I'm an absolute fan of your displacement arches. If you don't mind, I'd love to see the base brushes to have an idea of how you did it (I really suck at displacements, and yours are really inspiring, so I try to learn ).

Here is a hammer screenshot. I could pm you the .vmf if you REALLY want to see how I did it.

 

[Apom]

Here is a hammer screenshot. I could pm you the .vmf if you REALLY want to see how I did it.

Thanks, the screens are all I need I mostly wanted to see what kind and how many brushes you used, it shows well enough here. Did you get to paint geometry, or is it just subdivide/noise ?

 

[Jazz]

Thanks, the screens are all I need I mostly wanted to see what kind and how many brushes you used, it shows well enough here. Did you get to paint geometry, or is it just subdivide/noise ?

Really all I did was group the brushes, select the sides I wanted to displace, then just painted geometry. I don't quite understand the subdivide and noise tools yet so I just did what I DO understand.

 

[Jazz]

Sorry about the lack of updates, been really busy with school. Here is what I did for the past 3 days. PortalFlow takes a long time now, so I will optimize it later as well as fix some errors.

Money shot!
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s6.png

Rock Formation / Tunnel:
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s7.png

Building:
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s8.png

Another Building:
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s9.png

Bomb Pit in Blu Spawn:
http://no-moral.com/sdev/s10.png

 

[laghlagh]

Looks great, but I still say you should remove the gimmicky Badlands canyon and replace it with something else.

 

[grazr]

Yea, that rock screams "i'm from badlands". I would say if you do keep it, add more wooden platforms to it. Atleast that way it's disguised behind a bunch of neat geometry.

 

[YM]

Yea, that rock screams "i'm from badlands". I would say if you do keep it, add more wooden platforms to it. Atleast that way it's disguised behind a bunch of neat geometry.

I was going to suggest quite the opposite actually, I'd say its the wooden pannels alone that make it scream badlands, I'd say take out the wooden platform from the top and use the displacement ground below it to half submerge the prop (don't lower it, just raise the ground around it) Also, try adding some displacements nearer the top half sunk into it, aiding the disguise.

Overall what you've shown looks quite good and shows lots of promise

 

[grazr]

Well, seeing the version without the wooden platforms.. the model was still rather badlands looking. Atleast from the distance the ss was taken from, and with that same Badlands platform of course it looks even more badlands like.

More or no platforms would disuise it, (i said more because i had seen it without already) but seeing it without the platforms it was rather boring and unimaginative.

Though, i suppose most gamers not involved in custom work would notice it as much as i or anyone else here would.

 

[Jazz]

UPDATE!

Once again I apologize for the lack of updates, still kinda busy, and when I do manage to get something done I go detail crazy. Can't seem to help myself. However, FLOOR_MASTER's recent offer to host alpha maps as given me the will to finish the layout of my map (detailed or not). So after this part you will be seeing a lot more dev textures (of course until I get around to detailing after some gameplay tests).

Here are some pics.

The rock (added some roots and bushes + another platform).

Overview of what I have done:

What you see when coming out of the tunnel:

A little dip in the ground to add variance, also Red spawn room:

Here is an alternate exit from the spawn (In addition to the chute and the front door):

Money shot of what I made recently:

The gray dev thing is going to be some dirt that leads into a cliff. The cliff will take you into a mine shaft place with a "bottomless" pit. Upon exiting the cave I plan on making Blu team climb uphill and push the bomb either off of a cliff or into a really big bomb pit.

I think I will pave out the rest of the layout tomorrow with dev buildings and release an alpha so I can get some gameplay feedback.

 

[Inqwel]

How many track parts are there between where the cart starts and cap points so far?

 

[Vander]

You need to rotate the textures on the legs of your platform in the 1st pic.

Looks good overall!

 

[Jazz]

How many track parts are there between where the cart starts and cap points so far?

Well, under the first tunnel is cap A, under Red spawn is cap B. I plan on making cap C inside the mine shaft and the final cap outside on top of a hill.

 

[Jazz]

Quick update.

I blocked out the layout and made some basic buildings today. Because I think that pictures are worth a thousand words, here are some pictures.

Here is the overview of the final 2 parts of the map (point C and the bomb pit):
http://www.no-moral.com/a1.png

The green fog coming out is from Blu spawn, I am fixing it before I release the alpha.

This is probably my favorite part of the map because it is like an arena:
http://www.no-moral.com/a2.png

And this is a pic of the bomb pit. The building above the pit is red spawn:
http://www.no-moral.com/a3.png

Sorry to anyone who was expecting a saloon theme, I changed my mind halfway through development. I guess saloon can be a working title until I can think of a better one. Or maybe saloon is a good name?