Attention, Employees

[YM]

This has god to be the lamest update yet

He's not even a "demoman" anymore

THIS is why I'm disappointed. it was like the pyro before the flaregun choice.. only one way to burn people (although he's back to that sad state )

Having said that I do kind of like his new kit.

 

[MrAlBobo]

I just don't follow how anyone could be disappointed by this <_<
Just because of this what was shaping up to be a meh update (i really don't like or play either of the classes) has easily easily become my most anticipated one.
I don't think about this as changing the demo class, so much as its a new class, like the rifle vs bow for the sniper to a greater extent...
The only thing I am not instantly pleased with is that some demos will no longer be the anti-sentry.

And it just occurred to me...every update has made a more dramatic change then the last...what the hell is the engie going to get?

 

[Shmitz]

I'm disappointed by this. As has been said, it takes the Demo out of Demoman. I think the new playstyle is interesting, but give it to another class. I don't even care if it's already been updated. I just really hope whatever is left to reveal still makes things explode.

 

[Terr]

I guess they felt it was snazzier than a melee stick of dynamite that did damage with some self-damage, etc.

However, it's worth pointing out a lot of the same critiques could be made (and sometimes were) for other
ex. "The Sandvich detracts from the Medic, it's not a Heavy Weapon!" or "The Pyro is supposed to be like a CQB guy, why the heck does he get a long-distance gun!?"

 

[zpqrei]

In Valve we trust.

 

[Dr. Spud]

I was hoping to see that swinging demolition-pack the demoman had in the first trailer.

But on the other hand demo is a powerful class already - maybe it's not the best idea to give him too many ways to blow people up.

 

[zpqrei]

We still have 3 maps left to see,
I'm wondering what they could be.
Two Valve, One Community,
A million opportunities.

~Fin.

 

[Jack Riguel]

ahem...bloody melee weapons!!
im afraid ill have to break my usual rule about not joining the rush of people trying the new weapons...anyone who has fought against me should know im obsessed with melee

Exactly, I was displeased with the Sniper/Spy's lack of new melee weapons. I mean hell, the spy was understandable but nothing for the sniper? :,(

Either way I do believe this makes up for it, however what exactly is getting replaced for the shield isn't fully explained. Pipes or stickies? :/

As for changing the class, I hardly see that as being the case. If anything, it just makes him more Scottish.

 

[Shmitz]

As for changing the class, I hardly see that as being the case. If anything, it just makes him more Scottish.

Theme should not come before gameplay. If Valve wants to explain how melee and shield fits the gameplay of a ballistic explosive class, I'd love to hear it. After all, the sandvich and other seemingly odd item choices supported the play styles for other classes. But if the reason for the change was to make him more Scottish, it is the wrong reason.

 

[Nineaxis]

I'm excited and disappointed, I know I'm going to end up using all stock loadout for the demoman because, as Shmitz said, nothing here is explosive.

For the third weapons, it's Scottish something, I bet.

 

[PenPen]

I'm back from teh dead!

I'm not liking this much but I guess we'll have to see in-game. I do always want to have a more melee-focused class, but not changing the demoman's fundamentals like what we have here.

We'll see how the next few days will shape out.

 

[drp]

do i see people complaining, BEFORE they've played the new loadouts? for shame...

 

[MangyCarface]

Two more unlocks left for the demoman. I'm not worried.

Having the shield around will be useful as hell even without the sword on you...

 

[Ida]

Two more unlocks left for the demoman. I'm not worried.

Having the shield around will be useful as hell even without the sword on you...

You sure? I assumed this amounts to two unlocks, although it also looks like you have to use them at the same time, so... maybe not.

 

[FaTony]

do i see people complaining, BEFORE they've played the new loadouts? for shame...

I don't care how it plays, it already LOOKS bad.

 

[drp]

I don't care how it plays, it already LOOKS bad.

because LOOKS determines how fun or useful it is, amirite?`

 

[Ten19]

You sure? I assumed this amounts to two unlocks, although it also looks like you have to use them at the same time, so... maybe not.

Yeah, it's two unlocks. Sword = melee, Targe = stickybomb. They just work better if used in tandem.

 

[A Boojum Snark]

Perhaps he is implying demoman will win the war

 

[Void]

"A Christmas Story" comes to mind with this. Demoman has only one eye left and is said to not have it for much longer. He's getting more weapons...

"You'll shoot your eye out, kid!"

 

[Terr]

You sure? I assumed this amounts to two unlocks, although it also looks like you have to use them at the same time, so... maybe not.

Yeah, they're two separate unlocks during a single update of the Demo page. (Unlocks "1" and "2 are now links, while "3" and "?" aren't.) My reading of it says they are entirely independent, they just have some neat synergy if you strike while charging.

Valve will probably do something interesting to the control scheme so that they control a bit like a single weapon with primary and alternate fire. After all, you have no sticky bombs to detonate anymore.

I suspect equipping the shield (easier than saying "Targe" somehow) makes you automatically hold your current melee weapon in your other hand. So switching to slot 2 or to slot 3 brings up the same combination of shield+melee on your screen. If that weapon is the bottle, then--oh-well--it's just not as strong.