PL Angkor RC2

[squintik]

Thanks for the test and the feedbacks ! (I couldn't manage to be on time for the playtest, so I'll have to wait for the server demo)

For the lighting, I'm surprised it's so dark for a lot of people ... the ambient is at 600 iirc, and there's some fake lights to boost the diffuse lighting for some interiors, and I never got any complaint about this on other playtests ... but I guess I'll boost the fake lights for some interiors. (and no, I don't want to add torches)

 

[Sergis]

For the lighting, I'm surprised it's so dark for a lot of people

I'm surprised you're surprised.

 

[Sergis]

http://www.nodraw.net/2011/02/reflectivity/#more-376

you might find that useful.

 

[squintik]

Thanks for the link Sergis, I didn't know about this possibility, it'll be useful !

 

[squintik]

New version (b2) released :

- updated layout in last section of the map to have more possibilities
- updated lighting to avoid having too dark areas
- fixed collision bug with the plane
- art updates on temple buildings and structure
- tweaked ammo and health pickups (less pickups now, transformed some big into medium pickups, ...)
- some clipping work around doors and windows
- updated 3d skybox
- more optimization

See first page for link, screens, ...

 

[Ælement]

Thanksboat plox :O

 

[Blade x64]

Figured out why you saw adequate lighting while others could barely see. Not exactly sure why, but when $ssbump is enabled the textures increase in brightness. Disabling $ssbump allowed the textures to have their normal map without the highlighting.

See:
mat_bumpmap 1

mat_bumpmap 0

Good models and textures, by the way. Good enough that I want to use them (and I did, which is how I found this out). My only complaint is that the tree models seem to have somewhat awkward collision models.

Edit: After learning a little more about ssbump and normal maps, it looks like you're using a normal bump map for ssbump.

 

[squintik]

Indeed, I'll have to look at these programs to generate real ssbump maps to fix this ... thanks for the info ! (hopefully that will help fixing the bad lighting on the face statues too)

And I'll have a look at the tree collisions, I didn't modify them since quite a long time so I can probably make some better ones.
By the way, if you need some files for the textures or models used in the map, don't hesitate to ask. (but I guess you already extracted everything from the bsp )

 

[Username]

I'm loving the layout and gameplay, but this map seriously needs some detailing in the rooms. Torches, doorways, niches, explosions... Anything but the boxy rooms there are now.

 

[Mentlegen Spy]

Stairstabs

I love the area's for dropstabs, stairstabs and corner stabs

 

[Kill_the_Bug]

http://www.nodraw.net/2011/02/reflectivity/#more-376

you might find that useful.

I'm a little confuse like always

Where are they changing those values exactly?

Say... if you're still working on this, can you remove the invisible wall on stage 1? I'm loving the sticky jumper on this map to fly from the plane right into red spawn it's SUPER fun but I'd like to be able to get over that 2nd back wall but can't because of the player clip. I'm finding that it reall helps red from becoming entrenched at the point causing stalemates

Ahhhhhhhhh.... just saw the date on the thread - sorry for the bump

 

[GPuzzle]

Dude, your map is so preety is not even fair.

And sorry for the necro-bump

 

[ForbiddenDonut]

Easily the best BLU spawn room in the game.

 

[squintik]

Thanks !

While I'm here, I guess I should give some news about the map ...
So, I have been working on this one from time to time, trying to improve the gameplay and visuals.
In short, rounds A and B are nearly finished, but round C still need some work (mostly for visuals), so the next version is still not ready

Oh and for Kill_the_Bug, the end of round A will be slightly different, which is supposed to help BLU and offer more interesting gameplay.

I guess it's time for some WIP screenshots then :

Round A:
-

Round B:
- - -

 

[ForbiddenDonut]

One note of criticism, which you could take or leave -

The architecture style of your interiors resemble more of a gothic cathedral than a khmer temple. The tripartite nave with parallel arcades that lend their weight to pointed arches is a very gothic thing. The khmer people were not capable of such verticality or building techniques.

Still a beautiful map, but I thought I'd mention it.

 

[Prestige]

tripartite nave with parallel arcades

:thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:

 

[Wilson]

This theme pack might contain some useful things that go well with your theme.

 

[Trotim]

If you're resuming working on this remember to check this out again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJXg6fcUpGY

 

[Tarry H Sruman]

The architecture style of your interiors resemble more of a gothic cathedral than a khmer temple. The tripartite nave with parallel arcades that lend their weight to pointed arches is a very gothic thing. The khmer people were not capable of such verticality or building techniques.

I'm proud of the fact that I completely understood all of this.

 

[squintik]

Hehe
It's a good point (it's different from khmer architecture) but I think I'll keep it.
I need some big rooms and I like to have more variety in the architecture, so that it's easier to differenciate each rooms and have better space for gameplay.
When navigating through the map, these gothic-style rooms don't seem out of place (in my opinion at least ) ... so yeah I'm ok with them, but thanks for the feedback !

If you're resuming working on this remember to check this out again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJXg6fcUpGY

Thanks for the link, I already watched this before, and although I don't agree with several points he said, some are valids and have been adressed. (some are just a matter of taste I guess)

- rollback stairs : personally, I like them. I think they can create some "unique" moments (BLU rushing on the payload to prevent it from going down, RED team better working together because they focus more on the payload going up the stairs, etc...)
I tweaked some stuff so that they're slighly less punishing for the attackers though (cart speed slighly higher on the slope, cart not being able to go down the slope if it reached the top once, and some rollback slopes are shorter in rounc C).

- high ground near the end of round A: I don't think the area is so bad (there's nothing wrong with high grounds, on the contrary !) so I just removed the overpowered sentry position, and there's a new interior near this area (which should create new possibilities for both BLU and RED).
There are some other changes (most of them can be seen on the first screenshot I posted) but I think it should be ok.

There are a lot of other changes (intermediate spawn in round C, timers have been tweaked too, some tweaks about distances and heights in round C, fixed known bugs, etc...) but I'll wait for the next version before giving all the details.