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[Twist.vmf]

1 night and 1/2 cups of coffee later i finally have a map ready for a bot test!

now the reason the map is currently just for bots is because it has no clipping. once i am comfortable with the look and how it plays with robots, i will release it for proper testing.

now excuse me i really need some sleep

 

[CriminalBunny]

finally have a map ready for a bot test!

I wouldn't just test it with bots first before testing it with players if I were you; bots are known for being not relyable for testing. Why not just jump to the proper testing?

 

[Urban]

Yeah, you might as well finish clipping the map, make sure all the logic is working correctly and throw it in a gameday/imp test. Only humans are going to be playing the map in the future (unless robots take over the earth and decide to play video games for some reason) so you may as well start getting their feedback now rather than later. Also, remember not to pack the .nav file into your final .bsp, doing so can cause big problems for people trying to play it.

 

[Twist.vmf]

got some screen shots of the map! what do you all think?

p.s this isn't even a1! it is more...C1 (concept)

 

[radarhead]

@TwistMapper.exe Mid seems pretty big to me. And I'd scrap that red colored lighting, tends to mess with team recognition ability.

 

[Twist.vmf]

@TwistMapper.exe Mid seems pretty big to me. And I'd scrap that red colored lighting, tends to mess with team recognition ability.

i played it and you can get across mid in 8.82 secs as scout and 12.51 secs as demoman. as for the lights, i was just getting really tired, infact the map is full of problems just because of how exhausted i was

 

[LeSwordfish]

i played it and you can get across mid in 8.82 secs as scout

Thats very slightly less than twice the time taken to get from balcony to balcony on 2fort. Nine seconds is a very long time in tf2 - especially when you're being shot at by snipers, because the area is so massive and open they'll be the only things anyone plays.

 

[Twist.vmf]

Thats very slightly less than twice the time taken to get from balcony to balcony on 2fort. Nine seconds is a very long time in tf2 - especially when you're being shot at by snipers, because the area is so massive and open they'll be the only things anyone plays.

that's why i gave the battlefield so much cover, also i will be adding 2 more routs for players inside of the dam.

also i like the intensity of it...but that's just me.

 

[Crowbar]

This is little cover, and the most of the area is just uncovered.

 

[Twist.vmf]

This is little cover, and the most of the area is just uncovered.

really? it is actually really hard to see anything from the sniper spots :/

 

[Crowbar]

Well snipers are not the only thing threatening a player. Look, the area near the bridge has NO cover.

 

[sooshey]

that's why i gave the battlefield so much cover, also i will be adding 2 more routs for players inside of the dam.

also i like the intensity of it...but that's just me.

The scale of TF2 combat is much smaller than you think. Like Sword said your mid is only good for snipers, and maybe soldiers, because nobody else can even make use of this cover (the cover is too sparse and too far from the action). Look at mid points from other maps and see how much more compact they are while still allowing snipers to be useful.

 

[LeSwordfish]

Snipers don't stand where you want them to. They stand where they want. At a rough estimate, here is where snipers can see from the corner of the area:

A sniper can stand in that corner, and - i'm extrapolating a bit here - see all of the yellow area. If they move forward a little, they can cover the entire bridge - not just snipers but wranglers too.

 

[Jusa]

I wonder if my viewport is ill. Anyone know of a good viewport doctor who could take a look at him?

 

[Crowbar]

I heard Dr. Makeproper Geometry is good, also you could try Relaunch.

 

[zahndah]

Dr.Alt-F4. Kill those invalids i cant stand them.

 

[Jusa]

It is actually a render glitch or something, I just managed to catch it in a screenshot.

 

[Crowbar]

Yeah, stuff happens. Seen such things myself.

 

[The Letter Before A]

~Quality Valve Programming~

 

[Crowbar]

It's hard to keep things nice and clean when you're working with a 15 year old engine with tons of garbage and a 20 year old editing program for it.