Why Arena_Well hasn't been fixed

[NanoSquid]

Well, I went in the decompiled version of arena_well and said "screw it I'm going to fix this and submit it myself"

I fixed the skybox, train track textures' alignment with the props on the red side, and the skybox track decals and sent an email to Robin Walker yesterday.

I got this today:

Hi [MY NAME].
Thanks for taking the time to do this, but unfortunately we can’t really ship it, for two reasons. The first is a legal thing, where we would have to go through the process of getting a legal agreement with you so that we can ship your work, and that takes a chunk of our busy lawyer’s time. So in general, we only do that for major things, like purchasing entire community maps. The other reason is that any map fixes we do requires every TF2 player to download the entire map again, so we try to only do that if we have a significant amount of fixes on a map. This is why the well issues you’ve found haven’t been fixed yet: if we find a major problem in Well, or accumulate enough minor fixes, we’ll fix them all and ship an update out.

I’m sorry about this, so hopefully the process of doing the work yourself was educational enough for you to get something out of it.

Robin.

So apparently a completely wrong skybox is too small to be update worthy

I tried, tf2maps. I tried.

 

[Ginger]

Ouch dude, i feel for yah

 

[A Boojum Snark]

The most glaring issue, the skybox, can be fixed with a tiny override lump patch. Just like they did with sawmill the day after release because the CP was named "TODO" :/

 

[NanoSquid]

The most glaring issue, the skybox, can be fixed with a tiny override lump patch. Just like they did with sawmill the day after release because the CP was named "TODO" :/

Now I feel even more inadequate :crying:

 

[A Boojum Snark]

I was aiming that dismay at valve, not you

 

[NanoSquid]

I was aiming that dismay at valve, not you

You need to work on your aim. Who are you, Dick Cheney?

 

[lana]

Quick! We have to test arena_well and find a ton of bugs

 

[Prestige]

meh. you're thinking about it as mappers and not as players. i have never noticed like any of this.

 

[NanoSquid]

meh. you're thinking about it as mappers and not as players. i have never noticed like any of this.

Left is default, right is my fix.

See how much it affects the atmosphere?

 

[littleedge]

Yeah, Valve doesn't like doing things like that. And it's Arena. Who cares?


I've sent in detailed Badwater exploit feedback and they never updated it. Why? Because it's such a minuscule thing.

 

[Penguin]

LE you better find a shitton of clip fixes.

 

[Pocket]

Funny thing, someone made a video of a few balance issues 2fort had a while back: one of the sniper fences was one unit too high, creating a gap big enough to snipe under; one of the doorways to the spiral was one unit too low, allowing Engies to block it with a building; and one of the roofs had a gap that demomen could lob grenades into.

Then, a couple months ago, what did Valve do? They released a minor patch to 2fort that fixed the sniper deck issue but not the others.

Go figure.

 

[grazr]

I still get pissed off about the sign in the corridor to the battlements (on 2fort). I constantly get stuck on that and think i bumped a spy.

TURN THE COLLISIONS OFF PLEASE.

 

[MrAlBobo]

You should reply to valve with boojums solution, be interesting to see what they say

The most glaring issue, the skybox, can be fixed with a tiny override lump patch. Just like they did with sawmill the day after release because the CP was named "TODO" :/

 

[gamemaster1996]

I never noticed anything wrong with well before but yes, I see there is a enviromental problem there.

Well im off to decompile well.

 

[Jethro]

In arena_well, I can safely ride the train till I get squished against the gates. Not in any other maps. I don't get it.

 

[NanoSquid]

You should reply to valve with boojums solution, be interesting to see what they say

I actually sent a follow-up email with that included. No reply yet

 

[Boylee]

I'm willing to bet you don't get one...

 

[Tinker]

Afaik they don't want to release small map fixes too often because the whole map needs to be redownloaded, which adds a huge amount of bytes to what otherwise be a small patch. That said, I do wish they'd revisit old maps sometimes and brought out some ways to make maps like 2fort and stage 3 dustbowl a lot more fun.

 

[honeymustard]

I'm sure no one has a problem downloading an extra 30MB a month...