Stockpile B2

[Connect_Four]

Just did a 6v6 on it. Well, it turned into 5v5 when 2 people ragequit after 5 minutes, which was pretty gay and unsupportive. It looks very nice, and the only problem I could pull out from that flawed test was this:

That ledge is too high to walk up, therefore you have to jump up. Just a little annoyance I kept experiencing.

 

[Trotim]

What C4 said plus the sink room is still too empty. I'd say you could just "fill" the whole area behind the doorway opposite the sink with like a light and some crates behind a fenced-off area or something.

 

[Tinker]

I'm not too hot about these ramps. If the access to the pipe is going to be easy, why not just have stairs in the first place? This seems to be complicating it without reason. As for the rest of the intel yard, looking forward to seeing the pipe without a fence, it would benefit it a lot.

Just fill this up and block it off. It seems a weird spot to be able to hide.

This entrance is rather hard to see, might want to put a light directly behind it.

A scout only JUST can't make the jump from the concrete to the top of the roof. This is rather frustrating if you're trying to get around quickly. Consider slightly lowering the roof or moving the concrete a few centimeters forward.

The boxes in that same screenshot - I must say I'd like it better when any class can get on that roof. That way, going to grab the half-health kit is a genuine disadvantage and danger, plus it would cater the soldier-demoman-scout setup a little less (contrary to popular belief, competitive players actually like to have some variation!).

 

[Hanz]

CTF Stockpile B1 has been released! (Woooooooo-)

This is the first time I ever manage to release a B1 (of decent quality)!

Download (Updated to B1a)

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Screenshots!

Changelog!

05/05/2010: B1:

-Several detailling bugfixes over the whole map
-Did put the boxes at the middle back so classes without special jumping abilities can also get on the middle building

Have fun!

Edit:

Updated to B1a because HDR and cubemaps weren't working properly

 

[Hanz]

05/05/2010: B1a:

-Fixed HDR and cubemaps not working properly

Download:

TF2Maps
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Edit:

To show what was wrong:

B1:

B1a:

Put them next to eachother and you'll see that the second one looks nicer.

 

[Psy]

Congrats.

 

[Wilson]

It was fun map to play on and had it moments of glory, sadly you fell for same trap as Alaska and have big medkit in the middle. Scout goes in base, grabs intel, gets shot and grabs med, then he scores and repeat.
Remove the medkit or turn it to small, and you have solid gameplay.

^ I find it weird having two intel tables in one intel room.

 

[Hanz]

I think some people might have played the beta by now. Any thoughts or feedback?

 

[Wilson]

It was fun map to play on and had it moments of glory, sadly you fell for same trap as Alaska and have big medkit in the middle. Scout goes in base, grabs intel, gets shot and grabs med, then he scores and repeat.
Remove the medkit or turn it to small, and you have solid gameplay.

This!
No matter what, that medkit always ends up favoring one carrying the intel.
It would be good thing if it wasn't medium. (Small, make it small! :cursing: )

 

[Radaka]

Did some running through on this map, get together with me on it later for me to point stuff out.

 

[Hanz]

So now the contest is over I'll be making a Beta 2 soon.

I'll try to fix the room with the 2 big doors in. First thing I will try is removing the big door at the side of the intel area and see how that plays. If you have other ideas how to make this more fun, please tell me.

I need some opinions on the medium healthpack at the middle though. Some people say it's good that it is a medium for the battles there. But some say it's bad because scouts can pick it up while returning to their base with the intel. So, opinions on that please.

If you found any bugs, or areas that are badly detailled or underdetailled, you can ofcourse tell me, and please add a screenshot if you can, this would be very handy.

 

[Tinker]

http://imgur.com/JOdYL.jpg
http://imgur.com/lI58j.jpg
http://imgur.com/l4ddc.jpg
could use a light

http://imgur.com/QhS0Y.jpg
http://imgur.com/aHvt1.jpg
http://imgur.com/9Yhon.jpg
(and many more like it) could use clipping, competitive players don't like when their duel is decided by an iffy prop

http://imgur.com/D5yws.jpg
needs a roof

other notes:
- make something cool out of what's currently a pipe and something more crazy out of the intel buildings
- spice up spawn yard with truck/something else?

 

[Hanz]

Beta 2 has been released!

Download!

TF2Maps
Dropbox

Changelog!

05/07/2010: B2:

-Removed big door at the side of the intel area
-Made a lot of brushes func detail
-Improved optimisation
-Several lightning fixes and playerclipping fixes
-Moved health+ammo at intel to the kinda useless sideroute behind a container in the intel area
-...

I won't be editing the pipe because that is a major gameplay aspect in this map. If I would remove it I will have to start balancing a lot of things again and then were the past months quite useless. I will be editing the 'big door room' though since a lot of people hate it. I now tried something by removing the door at the intel area, if this doesn't work I will try something else.

And if there aren't any new bugs I will probably just improve optimisation a little more and then release an RC.

 

[Hanz]

Bump for the test we had.

I didn't notice any bugs? And the big doors room played better than before now I think.

Please post your opinions and/or feedback.

 

[LateLJ]

IMO this map looks... AWESOME. I really like it. It have really nice lighting and all. It made me happy.

I didn't manage to play it very much, but I found one place you could clip.

 

[koth]

ah man i want to play this now

 

[Hanz]

Are there any other bugs found yet? Except detailing it more, do I have to change/add/fix anything else than more detailing in B3?

 

[Tinker]

Honestly? change the pipe and boxes area in the intel rooms to something which plays the same but is made of more natural looking brushes and don't have an annoying little fence and/or wooden planks to get on to

that's all really

EDIT: actually I thought of some more stuff, will do a bigger post tomorrow

 

[Tinker]

1) People consider the healthpack in the middle too be too easy to grab and run and overall too little a risk for such a high reward. Also, demomen and soldiers can pretty much keep the mid house's roof totally locked. As such, I suggest putting planks over the boxes at the sides, so that every class can quickly climb up and take the house for their own. This would both make the healthpak location a whole lot more dangerous and would make it a lot less strong camping spot.

2) The pipe and boxes ramps at the intel yard are pretty clumsy and don't make for smooth play. Consider making something different with brushes or for example the haybales that were posted here. Please don't make the entirety of that room fit around that single pipe prop.

3) Above also means you can make the whole of the intel yard a little shorter. I think you should experiment with moving the intel room forwards, and make the door from the lower spawn yard directly connect with the intel room. This would make the whole place a whole lot less empty and overly spaced, and a little more defendable.

 

[Tinker]

Also, to compensate for the attackers, look if you can connect the second floor that leads from the spawn to the intel to the corridor on the other side. That'd give the attackers a little more places than one to attack from.