Mann Manor

CP Mann Manor Final release

Chemical Alia

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I have a few suggestions, in terms of optimization and aesthetics.

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It would be rare to never that a player would be viewing the bookcase from this upwards angle, and up this close. While you see this shape in wooden shelving a lot, I don't think that the inclusion of this lip adds any benefit to the look of the model, and removing it will save tris. And echoing a earlier remark, I think the shelf would look nice a little thinner as well. :)

Also, is that a chamfer on that book edge? Do they all have that? If so, I'd get rid of all of them and delete backfaces if you haven't already. Book stacks should also probably be one object and normal maps used to separate them if it needed, can't tell if that is the case or not from the screenshot.

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Big seam showing here.

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And that's a freaking awesome table. I like the grey one the best, but the red paint on the other one isn't reading quite right to me. It looks like it has broad brush strokes that are recolored from the other, but the way it's faded looks like the paint would have been applied as a color wash. That could look really nice, and having it fade out where the table naturally gets more wear, (sort of like illustrated below), since right now it's not really following any believable wear patterns.

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Rexy

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They're the same table, it's an effect of the phong shading + alpha mask. As for the seam...that's how wood cabinetry joins in actuality, I don't think it's an issue.
 

Chemical Alia

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My bad, I meant to link to a separate image of another table as an example, oops. Edited my post.

I know that planks don't always line up in continuation of the grain, but the seam of that is quite noisy and my eye jumps right to it as a distration.
 

What Is Schwa

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You're about as useful as a tongueless lesbian.
 
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YM

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Yeah I see that seam does look odd, but that is exactly how a bookshelf might be made.

(I also, incidentally, have a father who has made wooden furniture in the past, though he quickly focused on wooden pens after finding furniture not to his liking)
 

Chemical Alia

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Yeah I see that seam does look odd, but that is exactly how a bookshelf might be made.

(I also, incidentally, have a father who has made wooden furniture in the past, though he quickly focused on wooden pens after finding furniture not to his liking)

My point wasn't so much whether it's right or wrong, but how it looks, and how it reads.

(Lol, weird, my dad is a contractor.)
 

YM

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Aha perhaps there's some magical force that aims kids of craftsmen towards mapping and modeling.

I wasn't really providing an opinion either way, I'll prod rexy and if he has time I'm sure he'll tweak it so it looks less discontiguous.
 

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I think the real issue is that even though a bookcase may be made that way, it is just close enough to being seamless that it looks off. If it were closer to being seamless but wrong people wouldn't care, and likewise if the grain was even less aligned I imagine it may look more natural. What it looks like now is that one of them is 8 units off. I dunno. Maybe it also looks odd because of the repeat on other shelves with different books.
 

Rexy

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Aha perhaps there's some magical force that aims kids of craftsmen towards mapping and modeling.

I wasn't really providing an opinion either way, I'll prod rexy and if he has time I'm sure he'll tweak it so it looks less discontiguous.

Agreed, and it's not like I won't fix things that people bring up, it's that's there's still so much to do--it's a matter of priorities at this point.
 

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You know what all your fathers would like to see? This. Finished.

Don't let the old men down.
 

johndo

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I think the real issue is that even though a bookcase may be made that way, it is just close enough to being seamless that it looks off. If it were closer to being seamless but wrong people wouldn't care, and likewise if the grain was even less aligned I imagine it may look more natural. What it looks like now is that one of them is 8 units off. I dunno. Maybe it also looks odd because of the repeat on other shelves with different books.

I agree on this. This is the reason why it's being concerned. If you're fixing this, either get the texture of that poly to line up with the other poly like you did with the top trim you have of the bookcase or move it's uv around so that it doesn't feel like they are supposed to line up. The texture on that poly resembles so much to the wood grain of the other.