CP Gullywash

[Arnold]

gameday bump, any comments?

 

[MungoKing]

Very fun map I think. Only a few minor gripes. When standing in the area above the second CP you can block captures/captures, and I know you did that on purpose, but I don't think you should be able to. The trade off for blocking captures/capturing the point should be that you have the vertical advantage. The middle CP is pretty cool, and I like how it plays, it's just aesthetically awkward having the actual capture point on a raised point. Finally, the last point has that water route that you can use, maybe make it a bit more obvious? I didn't play enough to really find out where it goes, so maybe a little more time was needed. But anyways, awesome map, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

 

[captainAngry]

 

[Arnold]

rc6 released

*fixed the damn doors
*details added
*optimized (thnx to tarmo for laughing and helping me)
*small ammopack added top lobby final cp
*cp2/4 has some added cover, beneficial for defending team
*changes to middle

http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/cp_gullywash_rc6.rar

 

[tarmo-]

Awesome map, works extremely good in public AND 6on6 games. Gets alot of attention in finnish gathers, even more playtime than badlands gets and thats huge.

 

[pekken]

 

[captainAngry]

 

[Arnold]

rc6->rc7 changelog

*fixed non solid doors
*added some room to last point
*removed all but 1 railing at last point
*changed some lights
*added 3D skybox
*added some details
*changed tunnel to have a bit more room

rc7->rc8 changelog

*fog in skybox fix
*hallway to base enlarged
*stairway from lobby to balcony widened
*added little platform and windows to hallway from first spawn to balcony
*added a little room inside the wall at last point for the medic to have a little cover
*balcony has been made a little more roomy around the curved walls
*by popular demand middle point now resembles a penis to justify the name of the map
*fixed some bugs
*clipped some parts for smoother gameplay
*changed several lights
*better optimization overall


thanks again for the demo captainangry much appreciated.

 

[MangyCarface]

Keep it up man. This is one of the only maps I've seen come back from the abyss (i.e. fully detailed but inconsistently), you really rehauled it! Much more unique now, and I hear it's growing popular in some circles.

 

[Ida]

Hey, I just tried rc6 when looking through the ETF2L contest finalists, and - albeit without having played it myself - I must say they have made a good choice. This looks fantastic, and in terms of layout I can only say the same. I get a feeling of being near a beach or the sea from the water, light dirtground and dark wood. Whether it's intentional or not, it looks great!

I noticed two things you might want to fix if you haven't yet:
- Some small gaps in some of the rounded walls. They should be easy to see ingame.
- The 2nd point can be capped from the top, but not when you're jumping. I dunno why it's like that, but it just seems silly, if it's intentional.

 

[tarmo-]

- The 2nd point can be capped from the top, but not when you're jumping. I dunno why it's like that, but it just seems silly, if it's intentional.

It's intentional and it works perfectly. It shouldn't be changed.

 

[Arnold]

The capping from top without being able to jump when doing so is intentional, i wanted to give capping from the top some sort of disadvantage, otherwise there'd be nothing but advantages. it's mainly to keep scouts from jumping all over unable to get a hit on them while they are still capping.

thanks for the feedback and positive comments

 

[Arnold]

rc8 > rc9

*changed lobby lay-out a bit for smoother play
*changed ramphouse on middle to be a bit more accessible
*added some sort of wall thing at last (not sure about this plz do tell me if it doesn't work)
*added some details
*fixed several bugs
*created some others
*captimes are a tiny margin faster (don't expect a huge difference)
*hidden a frog somewhere, cookie for anyone that can find it

known issues:
*overlapping textures i somehow fail to notice
*small clipping issue at blu last point (nothing major)
*some more overlapping textures

IMPORTANT: if you notice more fps drops than any standard valve map (eg badlands) plz do tell me, steady fps is top priority.

http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/cp_gullywash_rc9.zip

 

[Vilepickle]

I always love your release notes

 

[Lazy Eskimo]

The more I look at gullywash the more I like it and it gets better with every update. Could be best tf2 map.

At middle where there's wooden pillars with cement base. Scout can get up point that way but it's not easy to do. Would be nice if you squared the top of cement base to make it easier.

Second area might not be all that great. Needs to get more play testing.

I failed at finding frog.

 

[Arnold]

eskimo, the top of the cement base is squared, only in playerclip brushes. so it's not visible in game)

i don't want it to be easy for scouts because scouts have enough smart jumps to execute on mid.

thanks for feedback and don't worry frog is hard to find.

 

[Dr. ROCKZO]

This was mentioned on Friendly Fire. Checking it out now.

 

[Gavinc]

After a quick run through I noticed an exploit at middle: demoman can double sticky jump over the red garage up near the lunch bag and bottles.

 

[Arnold]

rc9 -> rc10

*decreased captimes a bunch
*added different levels of height on middle ground
*added a rock at second cp
*corrugated metal at second cp has been stretched out to provide more cover
*added a little catwalk of dirt at second cp
*added little ammobox on battlements
*added a lot of details
*fixed the sticky doors
*fixed a lot of bugs
*frog still hasn't been found (cookie is getting stale)
*fixed the overlappings
*equalised ledges on middle
*won't update the map for a while now

http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/SSrc10/cp_gullywash_rc100000.jpg
http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/SSrc10/cp_gullywash_rc100016.jpg
http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/SSrc10/cp_gullywash_rc100015.jpg
http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/SSrc10/cp_gullywash_rc100004.jpg
http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/SSrc10/cp_gullywash_rc100014.jpg
http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/SSrc10/cp_gullywash_rc100012.jpg
http://www.team-vale.com/demos/arnold/SSrc10/cp_gullywash_rc100011.jpg


since i'm leaving tf2 for a while due to schoolwork (i'm a geek like that) i won't be working on the map for at least a month.

Enjoy the time you get without updates

 

[FreeLance_FoX]

Hehehe it looks much improved from the screens. While you're gone I'll find that darned frog and also try to analyze the layout a bit. Cheers!

-FoXy