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[Tyker]

A gravelpit style map with a swamp theme.

Now in beta flavour. And 50% less filesize!

The purpose of this map is for me to learn. Layouts, design, modelling, texturing, the source engine, how to handle feedback, how to implement feedback, how to plan, etc. While learning though, I also wish to creating something that people will like to play and like to look at. Fun times and good looks are what I strive for, and any and all feedback is always welcome!

Special thanks to:
Ravidge
Acegimo
YM
Irish Taxi Driver
The Swamp pack team
2fort2furious for massive testing!

 

[Prestige]

FYI you are not supposed to have the same texture going vertical that is also going horizontal (or at least VERY rarely).

It looks like it would play pretty well.

 

[Tyker]

If you mean the green rock (karst) texture: I cannot find a decent rocky floor texture to fit with the karst, so that is why it is just a big cube of karst texture right now.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I downloaded it and took a look around. It looks very well thought out, gameplay wise. There were a few minor points which I should mention:
-On point B, having it with so much water nearby totally negates the pyro as a class
-It is a bit confusing finding your way from A to B and from B to C.
-The whole map looks a bit samey, but im sure this will change
-The skybox doesnt compiment your textures, try using one from the swamp theme pack, im sure they will make your map look even better.

Good luck, and I cant wait to see it in a gameday!

 

[Tyker]

Thanks a lot for the feedback! I will try and explain the first point:

The water underneath point B makes the pyro less useful, but when a player decides to jump down into the water to extinguish themselves they lose a lot of time trying to get back on land again (few exit points, exit points only on the far sides, lots of pillars to navigate). That is the idea, and I hope this will show in the gameday.

 

[Mr.Late]

I don't know if you really need this door here. It is easy to spam stickies behind it, because the door give so much cover. And basically C is easy to defend because it is easy spam every entrance to C. Or maybe it was just teams, not sure...

Dead ends = I don't like

Entrances on B are on same wall, so it is easy to defend just with demomen and engineers.

SPAM. Red have huge advantage here. They can spam stuff from above to that tunnel. Maybe we failed because we tried only attack from here... Dunno.

This map can be very good map. You just need to edit layout a bit and make it feel more open. Now it feels a little maze like. Good job so far!

 

[lana]

BLU can open RED's spawn doors, and the doors around C made it difficult to push into. A lot of the paths into C were just asking for spam.

 

[Tyker]

I've made loads of progress, changed things according to feedback and made myself something to shape out the flow a lot better.
Can't wait for next week when I can get on the gameday again

 

[Fraz]

I really didn't like B. C was a bit spammy when we played, but that's because Blue were pushing from the one direction, and red had a huge height advantage. A seemed fine to me, from what I can remember.

I got kritz'd as a soldier when 3 or 4 of the enemy were bunched up there. Got them all in 2 rockets and filled my buff banner, might wanna extend the cover a bit more or move the back walla away a bit. Splash damage owns it.

 

[Tyker]

Bump for a4!

 

[lana]

This sign should be clipped or nonsolid

Increase the scale of your water to 1

 

[Ravidge]

I don't have much to say, or rather I didn't see enough to make any conclusions. But I definitely had fun. I think you have nailed the scale, which I have to admit I was a bit worried about when you started (a1).

 

[Mr.Late]

[1]
There were some problematic sightlines. (Like A-B tunnel, you can see A point really well from there)

A and B were a bit too hard to defend I think.

 

[Fredrik]

When I tested the map was running around as a soldier on those rooves at B all the time.
It's realy easy to camp up there, and almost impossible for ppl to kill you.
Otherwise, Nice map!

 

[Tyker]

Finally on beta status. I am looking for any and all detail advice and feedback!

[EDIT]
Also went to b1a, minor fixes.

 

[REEJ]

make fog color brownish = +1

 

[Sergis]

imo the 122 mb filesize might empty a lot of servers bc not everyone will want to wait until it loads.
did you pack all the swamp theme? if you pack only what you use and also look for suitable stock alternatives to as many new stuff as possible, that should cut down the filesize
also, the distances sometimes feel too distancy

 

[Tyker]

Updated to beta 2

 

[Tyker]

updated to b3.

I am particularly looking for some feedback on point C.
Is the brick nice? Would wood look better? Are the lights okay? Is the detail down below C up to par? etc.

 

[The Political Gamer]

Black spot:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-48-45-13.png

The broken wall looks ugly:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-49-05-07.png

wtf textures:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-49-36-34.png

I like how you can't jump on here and spawn camp.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-51-10-57.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-51-19-06.png

But the same can't be said for the other point...
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-50-04-89.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-50-13-59.png

Oh and I hate these stairs because every time I spawn here I end up going up them
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1276735/Pictures/Maps/hl2 2010-10-26 14-53-06-27.png