Oh god, Oh god, what have you done?!?!?
- Thread starter YM
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I see. This is why Hammer is now crashing out on me every time I use the model viewer. Another one of those "problems" they "fixed".
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I guess it's time for me to update the controversial arena_2fort now, since Valve seems to be officially OK with the idea. The sewers have needed a tweak for a while to make them more used, so I might do it on the official vmf instead of the decompiled one. And while I understand some of you may not appreciate the whole concept, I hope at least you'll admit (if you ever look at it) that I've done a decent job with it so far. 
Also, I'm expecting the next update to be demoman vs engineer: it's a natural fit to upgrade them both together; and nobody wants teams of 10 engineers for a week after its update.
Also, I'm expecting the next update to be demoman vs engineer: it's a natural fit to upgrade them both together; and nobody wants teams of 10 engineers for a week after its update.
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TheBladeRoden
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do it!
win or mega win?
Westerhound
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A TC map in a TC map. Epic win!
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Here is the compile log for sdk_pl_goldrush.vmf:
I didn't change a thing.
I didn't change a thing.
Code:
================== VBSP ==================
materialPath: c:program filessteamsteamappsusernamegoeshereteam fortress 2tfmaterials
Loading C:Program FilesSteamsteamappsusernamegoesheresourcesdk_contenttfmapsrcValve Officialsdk_pl_goldrush.vmf
Patching WVT material: maps/sdk_pl_goldrush/nature/blendgroundtograss005_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/sdk_pl_goldrush/nature/blendrockground004_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/sdk_pl_goldrush/nature/blendgroundtogravel005_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/sdk_pl_goldrush/nature/blendgroundtograss003_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
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Building Faces...done (0)
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Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
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Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
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Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
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Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
Occluder "occluders_c2" straddles multiple areas. This is invalid!
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Chop Details...done (1)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 2410 detail faces...done (2)
Merging details...done (1)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (4)
writing C:Program FilesSteamsteamappsusernamegoesheresourcesdk_contenttfmapsrcValve Officialsdk_pl_goldrush.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_goldrush_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_goldrush_01 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_goldrush_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_goldrush_01 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Found a displacement edge abutting multiple other edges.
Warning: invalid neighbor connection on displacement near (-3523.18 768.00 -0.00)
Warning: invalid neighbor connection on displacement near (-3511.15 768.00 -128.00)
Warning: invalid neighbor connection on displacement near (-3624.00 894.24 0.00)
Finding lightmap sample positions...
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Building Physics collision data...
done (7) (2910704 bytes)
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Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 16097 texinfos to 9788
Reduced 205 texdatas to 187 (4996 bytes to 4481)
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================== VVIS ==================
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reading c:program filessteamsteamappsusernamegoesheresourcesdk_contenttfmapsrcvalve officialsdk_pl_goldrush.prt
2851 portalclusters
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Total clusters visible: 765195
Average clusters visible: 268
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 895
visdatasize:800368 compressed from 2052720
writing c:program filessteamsteamappsusernamegoesheresourcesdk_contenttfmapsrcvalve officialsdk_pl_goldrush.bsp
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================== VRAD ==================
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[34 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']
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Writing c:program filessteamsteamappsusernamegoesheresourcesdk_contenttfmapsrcvalve officialsdk_pl_goldrush.bsp
14 minutes, 50 seconds elapsedA bunch of fanboys you are. Don't any of you do anything other than lap up any new change as "awwweeesummm" every time Valve does something? How about the idea of making new content and new maps instead of turning the old ones into a blur of variations. How will you know what map is what map now if they're in a constant state of flux?
- Apr 19, 2009
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Fine if you don't like it here than leave!
EDIT I checked that compile log and this is what I found.
The wost part is that it is only the big stuff and the full problem list is massive!HL2 Interlopers said:occluder "occluders_b2" straddles multiple areas. this is invalid!
Description:
This error means you have a func_occluder (by the name of occluders_b2) that is touching an areaportal or is inside a brush that's touching two area's. ( An area is a part of your map closed off by a areaportals and world-brushes)
Solution:
Move or delete the occluder or areaportal(s).
The affected object may not work and/or cause general errors
Last contribution: Anonymous
can't load skybox file skybox/sky_goldrush_01 to build the default cubemap!
Description:
You have entered a skybox texture which doesn't seem to be valid. Make sure you don't specify the last three letter (_UP, _DN, etc) of any skybox texture you use. You may also need to fix your vmt files if they are broken. It may also be caused by compiling a non-HDR skybox texture.
Solution:
Fix errors first
WIKI: Skybox
The affected object may not work/appear properly
Last contribution: Anonymous
found a displacement edge abutting multiple other edges
Description:
A displacement is touching more than one other displacements at the same point along one of its edges; in other words: at some point, three displacements are touching each other along an entire edge. This may cause lighting errors, as vrad doesn't know which displacements need to have their light smoothed out, if you know what i mean. I guess it can also be a wanted situation, in which cause this 'error' can be ignored.
Solution:
The usual cause i can think of is the accidental non-deletion of displacements along the sides of brushes. Eg, if you have two brushes next to each other, and their tops displaced, and you accidentally also displaced the vertical brushsides between these two, you get a T-shaped intersection of three.
image: purple: side that should've been destroyed, red: the edge.
This is no real error, but it could be the cause of lighting anomalies. There is no easy way to find the displacement either, the fastest way would be to go through your displacements one by one.
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Mexican Apple Thief
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- Aug 23, 2008
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Fun fact: you're not.
That's an evasion of the question.
Carter... this thread is the most enormous pile of sarcasm that has ever existed on this forum. I am sorry you did not manage to realize this.
- Apr 19, 2009
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Not if I do it first!