Water not working and Full bright

[Zoomspilo]

here we go,
console:

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1.vmf"
Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Oct 14 2017)
4 threads
materialPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\materials
Loading C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 4 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_gravel_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_gravel_01 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_gravel_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_gravel_01 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (44748 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 264 texinfos to 136
Reduced 17 texdatas to 14 (471 bytes to 342)
Writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1.bsp
Wrote ZIP buffer, estimated size 1056, actual size 842
0 seconds elapsed
** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1"
Valve Software - vvis.exe (May 15 2014)
** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -both -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1"

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1.bsp" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\maps\koth_coldpress_a1.bsp"

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\hl2.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" +map "koth_coldpress_a1" -steam
Compile Menu:

Hm... you have lights, right? I can't think of any reason VRAD isn't running other than that.

 

[geegor102]

multiple, I have light and light_enviromental or whatever it is.

 

[geegor102]

now running compile checker, it says sky_gravel_01 isn't a valid skybox texture, which it is.
also it is saying that I'm not running VRAD, which I am, so whats going on here?
logs:

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.vmf"
Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Oct 14 2017)
4 threads
materialPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\materials
Loading C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 4 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_gravel_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_gravel_01 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_gravel_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_gravel_01 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (44637 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 250 texinfos to 134
Reduced 17 texdatas to 14 (476 bytes to 344)
Writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.bsp
Wrote ZIP buffer, estimated size 1070, actual size 856
0 seconds elapsed
** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_"
Valve Software - vvis.exe (May 15 2014)
** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -both -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_"

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.bsp" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\maps\koth_coldpress_a1_.bsp"

 

[henke37]

The skybox error is an erroneous error. Ignore it, it's just valve being lazy. And it is a worthless thing to note anyway. It's about the default cubemaps. You never want default cubemaps, you just build them for real.

As for vvis and vrad not being run, they should each be outputting a bunch of lines in the log. They are not.

 

[FloofCollie]

I get the same problem. It's worth noting I had to perform a PC reset, but I've reinstalled TF2 and all files appear to be intact.
Both vvis.exe and vrad.exe are present in Team Fortress 2 > bin, but apparently can't be run according to the compile log.

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Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 14 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\arena_firstmap_a1.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_tf2_04 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_tf2_04 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_tf2_04 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_tf2_04 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (34281 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 79 texinfos to 46
Reduced 27 texdatas to 23 (827 bytes to 736)
Writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\arena_firstmap_a1.bsp
Wrote ZIP buffer, estimated size 3383, actual size 2499
0 seconds elapsed
** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\arena_firstmap_a1"
vvis launcher error: can't load vvis_dll.dll
The specified procedure could not be found.

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\arena_firstmap_a1"
vrad_launcher error: can't load vrad_dll.dll
The specified procedure could not be found.

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\arena_firstmap_a1.bsp" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\maps\arena_firstmap_a1.bsp"

 

[geegor102]

ok removed cubemap, what should I do for vvis and vrad? I also recently wiped my pc as well.
Log:

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** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.vmf"
Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Oct 14 2017)
4 threads
materialPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\materials
Loading C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 4 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_gravel_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_gravel_01 to build the default cubemap!
*** Error: Skybox vtf files for skybox/sky_gravel_01 weren't compiled with the same size texture and/or same flags!
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_gravel_01 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (44637 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 249 texinfos to 134
Reduced 16 texdatas to 14 (382 bytes to 307)
Writing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.bsp
Wrote ZIP buffer, estimated size 448, actual size 368
0 seconds elapsed
** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_"
Valve Software - vvis.exe (May 15 2014)
** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -both -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_"

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\sourcesdk_content\tf\mapsrc\koth_coldpress_a1_.bsp" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\maps\koth_coldpress_a1_.bsp"

** Executing...
** Command: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\hl2.exe"
** Parameters: -game "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf" +map "koth_coldpress_a1_" -steam

 

[henke37]

I did not say "remove the cubemaps from the map".

 

[geegor102]

well, are they required for water?
also would that impact vrad or vvis?
also how would they be not default?

 

[Vel0city]

Look, your problem doesn't lie with your map in any way. You can ignore that cubemap error, and you do want cubemaps, otherwise your reflections will be based on the default HL2 skybox texture which of course will look bad in your TF2 map. They're not required for water though, but VVIS most definitely is. That stage isn't running because the compiler can't load the necessary dll, even though it's there. You can try verifying the game cache after closing everything TF2 related, you can try deleting the dll files in the folder they're in and then verify the game cache so you know for sure you're getting fresh ones, and if that doesn't work you can also try uninstalling TF2 via Steam (after backing up your mapping files and materials/models/etc folders if you installed custom content, then navigate to the common folder in c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common and delete the entire Team Fortress 2 folder and then reinstall the game, and if that doesn't fix it, shoot an email at Valve here and describe the problem to them in the utmost detail you can so that they can maybe fix it in a future update. It's not just TF2, since september more Source mappers are running into this issue. If you Google "can't load vvis_dll.dll" you'll see a pretty large number of people having issues with the vvis_dll.dll and vrad_dll.dll errors. Dig into some other threads on the Steam forums or Reddit (all of which will show up in that Google search), some people found multiple ways to temporarily fix it (or permanently for the lucky ones).

 

[Pocket]

I mentioned this before in a status post, but the issue might be the thing that they recently fixed for CSGO mappers:

Removed an unintentional dependency on Dynamic C Runtime in vvis map compiler, which should fix map compilation problems in some recent installations.

 

[geegor102]

I mentioned this before in a status post, but the issue might be the thing that they recently fixed for CSGO mappers:

So does this mean that this problem is unfixable? at least by me?

Look, your problem doesn't lie with your map in any way. You can ignore that cubemap error, and you do want cubemaps, otherwise your reflections will be based on the default HL2 skybox texture which of course will look bad in your TF2 map. They're not required for water though, but VVIS most definitely is. That stage isn't running because the compiler can't load the necessary dll, even though it's there. You can try verifying the game cache after closing everything TF2 related, you can try deleting the dll files in the folder they're in and then verify the game cache so you know for sure you're getting fresh ones, and if that doesn't work you can also try uninstalling TF2 via Steam (after backing up your mapping files and materials/models/etc folders if you installed custom content, then navigate to the common folder in c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common and delete the entire Team Fortress 2 folder and then reinstall the game, and if that doesn't fix it, shoot an email at Valve here and describe the problem to them in the utmost detail you can so that they can maybe fix it in a future update. It's not just TF2, since september more Source mappers are running into this issue. If you Google "can't load vvis_dll.dll" you'll see a pretty large number of people having issues with the vvis_dll.dll and vrad_dll.dll errors. Dig into some other threads on the Steam forums or Reddit (all of which will show up in that Google search), some people found multiple ways to temporarily fix it (or permanently for the lucky ones).

tried all of this.

 

[geegor102]

woohoo! I fixed it!
I installed Microsoft visual C++ or something, and now it works. yey