@Crash suggested we have a discussion, so instead of spamming the jam's page I thought it would be easier to have it here. I agree with crash on the grounds that the jam was a big success, and I did enjoy it. I support the idea of having 2 seperate contests, one being the winter jam, and the other being a 72hr summer contest. Having both means that if you dont like the laid back nature of the jam, or vice versa with the competitive-ness of the 72hr contests, your free to luck out and join in on the next one. The jam would be inviting everyone from the community, as it has before, but the 72hr contest would be strictly mapping, (TF2MAPS.NET Remember?). Dont get me wrong, I love both that is why I am suggesting this.